as they r all the result of his work, and that all you enjoy and dislike in life is a result of his plan and doing
LOVE IS ALL WE NEED, CONCENTRATION AND ENERGY ALL WE HAVE.............MAY ALL BEINGS BE HAPPY, MAY ALL BEINGS BE HEALED AND HEALTHY, MAY ALL BEINGS BE FREE FROM HARM AND SUFFERING, MAY ALL BEINGS BE AWAKENED AND LIBERATED, MAY ALL BEINGS ENJOY INNER PEACE AND EASE, MAY THERE BE PEACE IN THIS WORLD AND THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE UNIVERSE.............MAN IS THE ROOT OF ALL EVIL, ONLY THROUGH THE MIND CAN EVIL SURVIVE.............
Friday, November 11, 2011
Sunday, November 06, 2011
the ignorant
To alll Thai people, PLEASE stop telling my daughter she has to be white to be beautiful, she's 4 years OLD, take your ignorance and leave us alone, we CAN actually think for ourselves
that feeling we all look 4
Love is like FIRE, it can feed you and keep you warm, but if it goes neglected and unrespected, it will burn U. Never B afraid to tell those u luv HOW u feel, for we r here one day, n can be gone tomorrow.
could
When are you going to seeeee,
yourrrr the most beautiful person ive seennnnnnn,
You say, he loves youuuuu and that i couldnt,
But how can you say that, when he does this, to you, that which i could never,
Its true i dont shed a tear when your not here,
but everytime i think of you, and what we could do
And you with him, my eyes are never clear,
and all that remains is the way you make my heart fly,
I just wishhhhhh, you could, could see what i feelllllll,
I just wishhhhhh, you could, could see the dealllllll,
Theres nothing, i wouldnt do for you if i could,
If only you could see your so beautifulllllll, and deserve better than thisssss.
yourrrr the most beautiful person ive seennnnnnn,
You say, he loves youuuuu and that i couldnt,
But how can you say that, when he does this, to you, that which i could never,
Its true i dont shed a tear when your not here,
but everytime i think of you, and what we could do
And you with him, my eyes are never clear,
and all that remains is the way you make my heart fly,
I just wishhhhhh, you could, could see what i feelllllll,
I just wishhhhhh, you could, could see the dealllllll,
Theres nothing, i wouldnt do for you if i could,
If only you could see your so beautifulllllll, and deserve better than thisssss.
Sunday, October 16, 2011
Monday, October 03, 2011
Celestine Prophecy Insight 9 Review
9. Conscious evolution. This insight is a vision of culture in the next millennium. Humans consciously participate in their evolution by living according to their intuition, which guides them in such a way as to increase their energy. Population decreases so much that most of the world can be allowed to return to wilderness, creating old-growth forests full of energy. The means of survival are automated and available to everyone. Their sense of purpose is satisfied by "the thrill of our own evolution". People will consume less and work less so that they can work on their evolution. (Redfield is ambiguous about this: Lower consumption may not be necessary because people will pay you for your spiritual insights. "When people come into our lives at just the right time to give us the answers we need, we should give them money." [page 226])
The goal of this evolution is to achieve a level of vibration that makes us invisible to others, perhaps even immaterial. Jesus was the first to do this, and sporadic individuals continue to do so. (The main character's mentor does so in the conclusion of the book.) The ultimate goal is for large groups to "cross over" together in a "general rapture". The Mayans are alleged to have done this.
9. Our purpose here is to evolve beyond this plane. Fewer people (a result of reproductive abstinence) and more old-growth forests will help us to sustain our energy and accelerate our evolution. Technology will do most of our work for us. As we begin to value spiritual insight more and more, we will pay those who bring it to us, and this will eventually replace the market economy and our need for paid employment. We can connect to God's energy in such a way that we will eventually become beings of light, and walk straight into heaven.
The next evolution Ive been saying for years will be a spiritual one as people begin to wake up to what is true and what is false, societies will shift, crime will fall and happiness will increase as mental suffereing is reduced. We are already seeing many drops in the populations birth rates, which many see leading to economic disaster. This is probably true if humans remain dead in the water, but if the next human evolution does manifest itself, it will not be a disaster for the world. In regards to giving money, i think it would be more beneficial if people gave food, clothes medicince etc. As i feel money will begin to lose its allure and its hold on many people and nations around the world. We will return to the basic necessities that all people need in life, and technology will advance in ways never before seen. As so much money is spent on weapons this will greatly be reduced, and be put back into hospitals education and research that will actually benefit us and the Earth. This i feel is a few centuries away.
The goal of this evolution is to achieve a level of vibration that makes us invisible to others, perhaps even immaterial. Jesus was the first to do this, and sporadic individuals continue to do so. (The main character's mentor does so in the conclusion of the book.) The ultimate goal is for large groups to "cross over" together in a "general rapture". The Mayans are alleged to have done this.
9. Our purpose here is to evolve beyond this plane. Fewer people (a result of reproductive abstinence) and more old-growth forests will help us to sustain our energy and accelerate our evolution. Technology will do most of our work for us. As we begin to value spiritual insight more and more, we will pay those who bring it to us, and this will eventually replace the market economy and our need for paid employment. We can connect to God's energy in such a way that we will eventually become beings of light, and walk straight into heaven.
The next evolution Ive been saying for years will be a spiritual one as people begin to wake up to what is true and what is false, societies will shift, crime will fall and happiness will increase as mental suffereing is reduced. We are already seeing many drops in the populations birth rates, which many see leading to economic disaster. This is probably true if humans remain dead in the water, but if the next human evolution does manifest itself, it will not be a disaster for the world. In regards to giving money, i think it would be more beneficial if people gave food, clothes medicince etc. As i feel money will begin to lose its allure and its hold on many people and nations around the world. We will return to the basic necessities that all people need in life, and technology will advance in ways never before seen. As so much money is spent on weapons this will greatly be reduced, and be put back into hospitals education and research that will actually benefit us and the Earth. This i feel is a few centuries away.
Friday, September 30, 2011
Celestine Prophecy Insight 8 Review
8. That evolution can't be done alone, so begin to practice the new "Interpersonal Ethic" by uplifting those who cross your path. Talk to people who make spontaneous eye contact with you. Avoid co-dependent relationships. Be there for people. Call attention to other people's control dramas. In groups, speak when the spirit (instead of the ego) moves you.
8. Relating to others. This insight comes in several pieces.
• Children can be raised without control dramas if they have constant, undivided access to an adult who can give them the energy they need.
• Development can be blocked by an "addiction to another person". The subtle energy has a male and female side. If you can access one and someone else the other, then for a short time the couple can be filled with energy. But the focus on the other person eventually cuts each off from the universal energy. The two begin competing for energy, restarting control dramas. This is the falling-in-love/falling-out-of-love phenomenon.
• Everyone who crosses our path has a message for us. We should give them energy and help them get clear so that they can accurately deliver the message.
• Other people's control dramas will break down if we name them and refuse to play a role in them.
This is about incorporating the practices into your daily life stop feeding others but beware who you try to inform, and how, its about tone and delivery, don’t become egotistical and blame others or put them down, try to ask them simple questions about why and what they were doing or thinking, if you come on too strong their ego may not be ready to receive and become defensive in which they will close down and you will not be able to communicate with them, also you will begin to stop playing the role, the other persons control drama will naturally fade. If small groups of people around the world can do this it will gradually spread, and their will be huge energy shifts, and the process will speed up.
8. Relating to others. This insight comes in several pieces.
• Children can be raised without control dramas if they have constant, undivided access to an adult who can give them the energy they need.
• Development can be blocked by an "addiction to another person". The subtle energy has a male and female side. If you can access one and someone else the other, then for a short time the couple can be filled with energy. But the focus on the other person eventually cuts each off from the universal energy. The two begin competing for energy, restarting control dramas. This is the falling-in-love/falling-out-of-love phenomenon.
• Everyone who crosses our path has a message for us. We should give them energy and help them get clear so that they can accurately deliver the message.
• Other people's control dramas will break down if we name them and refuse to play a role in them.
This is about incorporating the practices into your daily life stop feeding others but beware who you try to inform, and how, its about tone and delivery, don’t become egotistical and blame others or put them down, try to ask them simple questions about why and what they were doing or thinking, if you come on too strong their ego may not be ready to receive and become defensive in which they will close down and you will not be able to communicate with them, also you will begin to stop playing the role, the other persons control drama will naturally fade. If small groups of people around the world can do this it will gradually spread, and their will be huge energy shifts, and the process will speed up.
Thursday, September 29, 2011
Celestine Prophecy Insight 7 Review
7. Once cleared of traumas, you can build energy through contemplation and meditation, focus on you basic life question, and start riding a steady stream of intuitions, dreams, and synchronistic coincidences, all guiding you in the direction of your own evolution and transformation.
7. Using intuition. When we are in touch with the energy, clear of our control dramas, and aware of the questions relevant to this moment, our intuition supplies the answers we need. Once we are aware of these answers, we need only watch for meaningful coincidences to show us how to act on them.
Now we have the base we need to build upon it, contemplation, reflection, meditation, and interacting with others who are going through this course will allow you to share your experiences and offer alternative ways of action, speeding up peoples growth. This is really about awakening to the real world and not the world you have been told about, but the deep root causes for our behaviours and feelings, so much of what we see are only shadows and myths
7. Using intuition. When we are in touch with the energy, clear of our control dramas, and aware of the questions relevant to this moment, our intuition supplies the answers we need. Once we are aware of these answers, we need only watch for meaningful coincidences to show us how to act on them.
Now we have the base we need to build upon it, contemplation, reflection, meditation, and interacting with others who are going through this course will allow you to share your experiences and offer alternative ways of action, speeding up peoples growth. This is really about awakening to the real world and not the world you have been told about, but the deep root causes for our behaviours and feelings, so much of what we see are only shadows and myths
Wednesday, September 28, 2011
Why do men become so violent with the ones they LOVE.???
If you truely love someone, how can you ever want to bring harm to them???
Is it that for too long society has told us that men dont cry, that men dont even emotions, and that these emotions get bottled up inside and end up poping, causing men to suffer breif bouts of insanity???? Is it that men fear their emotions and have no understanding or way to control how they feel??? Is it due to other scenarios that they have created in their own minds, and need to act out and blames to justify their own bad behaviour??? How much does it have to do with society, families, cultures, media and myth??? I wish I could answer these questions and help all the men in the world. Just think how much suffering would cease over night, how much stress and worry, how much pain and fear, HOW MUCH LOVE COULD RISE UP AND TAKE THEIR PLACE.
Is it that for too long society has told us that men dont cry, that men dont even emotions, and that these emotions get bottled up inside and end up poping, causing men to suffer breif bouts of insanity???? Is it that men fear their emotions and have no understanding or way to control how they feel??? Is it due to other scenarios that they have created in their own minds, and need to act out and blames to justify their own bad behaviour??? How much does it have to do with society, families, cultures, media and myth??? I wish I could answer these questions and help all the men in the world. Just think how much suffering would cease over night, how much stress and worry, how much pain and fear, HOW MUCH LOVE COULD RISE UP AND TAKE THEIR PLACE.
Tuesday, September 27, 2011
Celestine Prophecy Insight 6 Review
To change ourselves first we have to know ourself. We have to be able to CONTEMPLATE AND REFLECT upon on our own behaviour honestly and see the effect it has on ourself and those around us. We have to analyze our own emotions, and question them. Question why we do things, and how others act toward us. Once we are able to identify things as they truely are we become aware that we act differently to different people, and that we sometimes have negative thoughts and emotions. All our actions are first born from our thoughts. But when we are with people are we acting out a particular role?, or are we being honest with our self and them?. Reflect upon how they make you feel, how words effect your feelings, and watch how others try to control you and the people around them, or how people are controlled by the people around them. Question your own motives, are you often mean/cruel to others? Do you enjoy watching poeple in pain? or Do you enjoy helping people? Do you care what others think? Do you act differently around different people? Do you enjoy talking about emotions and feelings? Are you afraid of meeting new people? How do you deal with anger? Do you take our your frustrations out on others or do you allow them to build up? The knowing and unknowing you must become aware of your own control drama and others, and why, and how to change the way you deal with people, but these control dramas are not easy to break and they take time and work, you can not just turn them off, a daily routine helps where you write down what happened and how you dealt with the situation, and if you did what you think was right, or do you think you could have done something different, it can be very difficult to decide right and wrong, You will also become aware of others control drama and when they are competeing for your energy, but you will be able to avoid this situation, maybe even stop it or reverse it, if we also know our parents control drama this will greatly help to understand our own, and understand our parents a lot more, a lot is not their fault as a lot of the control dramas power is done subconsciencly , you will also be overcome with relief as a huge burden is lifted, letting go, and forgiveness will fill your heart, no one is perfect and we all make mistakes, most people try to do their best but they are overcome with their own control dramas and it steps in and we lose sight of what should be done. When more people get through this stage this is when a critical mass will emerge as others behaviours change, which inturn will change other peoples attitudes. Before this point there is only knowing yet there is little experience or understanding, but as the experiences increase, awareness increases you will be better equipped to relate to others.
6. Childhood traumas block our ability to fully experience the mystical. All humans, because of their upbringing, tend toward one of four control dramas:
o Intimidators steal energy from others by threat.
o Interrogators steal it by judging and questioning.
o Aloof people attract attention (and energy) to themselves by playing coy.
o Poor me's make us feel guilty and responsible for them.
Become aware of the family dynamics that created your control drama and you can focus on your essential question, which is how to make of your life a higher- level synthesis of your parents' lives.
Getting clear. In order to be in a state of love with the world on a regular basis, we have to let go of patterns of behavior we developed to take energy from others.
First, we have to become aware of our "control dramas" and break our controlling habits. There are four control patterns or ways of causing others to give us energy, two actively demanding energy, two passively creating conditions in which energy is sent. "Active" control dramas include intimidation and interrogation - asking questions and then picking apart the answers. "Passive" control dramas include aloofness - creating an air of mystery that entices others to send energy--and "poor me"--creating a sense that if others don't provide energy, something awful will happen to the controller.
Second, we have to "get clear" of our control dramas. We must understand our parents' control dramas and how these shaped ours. Then we must learn what meaning our parents' lives had for us, and how this determines our own developmental work. The things we would change about our parents - individually and together - are what we need to work on in our own lives.
6. Childhood traumas block our ability to fully experience the mystical. All humans, because of their upbringing, tend toward one of four control dramas:
o Intimidators steal energy from others by threat.
o Interrogators steal it by judging and questioning.
o Aloof people attract attention (and energy) to themselves by playing coy.
o Poor me's make us feel guilty and responsible for them.
Become aware of the family dynamics that created your control drama and you can focus on your essential question, which is how to make of your life a higher- level synthesis of your parents' lives.
Getting clear. In order to be in a state of love with the world on a regular basis, we have to let go of patterns of behavior we developed to take energy from others.
First, we have to become aware of our "control dramas" and break our controlling habits. There are four control patterns or ways of causing others to give us energy, two actively demanding energy, two passively creating conditions in which energy is sent. "Active" control dramas include intimidation and interrogation - asking questions and then picking apart the answers. "Passive" control dramas include aloofness - creating an air of mystery that entices others to send energy--and "poor me"--creating a sense that if others don't provide energy, something awful will happen to the controller.
Second, we have to "get clear" of our control dramas. We must understand our parents' control dramas and how these shaped ours. Then we must learn what meaning our parents' lives had for us, and how this determines our own developmental work. The things we would change about our parents - individually and together - are what we need to work on in our own lives.
Monday, September 26, 2011
Should i be easier on her?
I had a dream the other night, about goin easier on my partner about money. Since i was young i was taught about how to manage money and save, and do a budget. My partner on the other hand never had the opportunity. Coming from a very poor family she never had that much in life, and certainly never had the chance to manage money. So ive learnt that its unreasonable to expect other to be able to follow your own strict habits, especialy if they have never had the chance. I try to live my life in quite a strict manner, which i learnt while training as monk. I enjoy living such a life, but i think its unfair of me to expect others to live in such a way. I take enjoyment in spending time with my children when i can, i enjoy paying my bills On time, and i enjoy spending time at home, i drink once a week, i dont smoke, and i have no addictions other than cookies, i dont steal i dont lie, i dont make promises i cant keep, therefor i do what i say. Thou i find this easy to do, i now know others are unable to and i shouldnt expect them to even thou i find them quite easy.
Your all addicted to something, is it a choice?
There are so many addictions out there, but why??? I think primarily it has to do with peoples inability to enjoy the silence of the present moment.
One of the first documented uses of the word addict was used as an adjective meaning of delivered or devoted. This was in 1529, and comes from the Latin word addictus which comes from addicere. In this case, the word ‘ad’ meaning deliver, yield, devote, and the word ‘dicere’ meaning say or declare. However, the history of addiction in connection to a drug didn’t come along until 1906 with a reference to opium. This is the date in which the term became more widely used. From that point on, ‘addiction’ was mostly a term that was pharmacological, relating to the process of ones body becoming dependant as their drug tolerance rose.
Many define addiction by using the term control of a substance or emotion, but then how can you be addcited, if you have no choice?
Here is a list of things people can be addicted to?
Video games, the internet, online games, pain, anger, clothes, money, bullying, drugs, sex, people, places, music, religion, animals, eating, fighting, watching TV, shopping, driving, gambling, stealing, swearing, killing, destroying, annoying, slapping, scratching, cleaning,
Adrenalin, Anime Applause Art Arson Attention Authority Auto Racing
Bulimia Beastiality Body Building Coffee Caffeine Coin collecting Crime Ego Exercising Fame Food Husbands Isolation Junk collecting Lust
Laziness Love Lacquer thinners Masturbation Masochism, Meetings (as in hiding in meeting) Men Marriage Muscle Relaxants Over achieving Over eating
Over working Occult Prayer (without action) Pleasure Pornography
People Pleasing Perfectionism Pain Killers Relationships Racetrack betting Action Risky behaviors Sadism Satanism Shopping Serotonin - SELF - ego
Self Help Books, programs Self Mutilation Spotlights (see fame) Sniffing Solvents Sleeping Sleeping Pills Shock Treatments
Speed Steroids Torturing - emotionally or physically - Power addiction
Therapy - codependency as opposed to getting on with life.
Thrills Vandalism Violence Voodoo Vomiting - see Bulimia
Voyeurism Wealth Weightlifting Women Work Wheat Flour - Carbohydrates
None of these created the Addiction, men did, Is it an addiction if you have no choice?
Are habits about choice?
One of the first documented uses of the word addict was used as an adjective meaning of delivered or devoted. This was in 1529, and comes from the Latin word addictus which comes from addicere. In this case, the word ‘ad’ meaning deliver, yield, devote, and the word ‘dicere’ meaning say or declare. However, the history of addiction in connection to a drug didn’t come along until 1906 with a reference to opium. This is the date in which the term became more widely used. From that point on, ‘addiction’ was mostly a term that was pharmacological, relating to the process of ones body becoming dependant as their drug tolerance rose.
Many define addiction by using the term control of a substance or emotion, but then how can you be addcited, if you have no choice?
Here is a list of things people can be addicted to?
Video games, the internet, online games, pain, anger, clothes, money, bullying, drugs, sex, people, places, music, religion, animals, eating, fighting, watching TV, shopping, driving, gambling, stealing, swearing, killing, destroying, annoying, slapping, scratching, cleaning,
Adrenalin, Anime Applause Art Arson Attention Authority Auto Racing
Bulimia Beastiality Body Building Coffee Caffeine Coin collecting Crime Ego Exercising Fame Food Husbands Isolation Junk collecting Lust
Laziness Love Lacquer thinners Masturbation Masochism, Meetings (as in hiding in meeting) Men Marriage Muscle Relaxants Over achieving Over eating
Over working Occult Prayer (without action) Pleasure Pornography
People Pleasing Perfectionism Pain Killers Relationships Racetrack betting Action Risky behaviors Sadism Satanism Shopping Serotonin - SELF - ego
Self Help Books, programs Self Mutilation Spotlights (see fame) Sniffing Solvents Sleeping Sleeping Pills Shock Treatments
Speed Steroids Torturing - emotionally or physically - Power addiction
Therapy - codependency as opposed to getting on with life.
Thrills Vandalism Violence Voodoo Vomiting - see Bulimia
Voyeurism Wealth Weightlifting Women Work Wheat Flour - Carbohydrates
None of these created the Addiction, men did, Is it an addiction if you have no choice?
Are habits about choice?
Thursday, September 22, 2011
The Art of Loving
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The Art of Loving
Author(s) Erich Fromm
Publication date 1956
Media type Print
The Art of Loving is a book written by psychologist and social philosopher Erich Fromm (1900–80).[1] In this work, Fromm recapitulated and complemented the theoretical principles of human nature found in Fromm's Escape from Freedom and Man for Himself – principles which were revisited in many of his other major works.
Fromm presents love as a skill that can be taught and developed. He rejects the idea of loving as something magical and mysterious that cannot be analyzed and explained, and is therefore skeptical about popular ideas such as "falling in love" or being helpless in the face of love. Because modern humans are alienated from each other and from nature, we seek refuge from our aloneness in romantic love and marriage (pp. 79–81). However, Fromm observes that real love "is not a sentiment which can be easily indulged in by anyone." It is only through developing one's total personality to the capacity of loving one's neighbor with "true humility, courage, faith and discipline" that one attains the capacity to experience real love. This should be considered a rare achievement (p. vii).
We are starved for love, yet all our attempts to attain love in Western society are bound to fail, unless – like any thing else we want to do well – we practice and improve our self discipline, concentration and patience, and place high priority on our mastery of the art of loving (pp. 99–123). Readers will be disappointed if they expect the kind of easy answers and techniques often presented in self-help psychology bestsellers. Perhaps the closest that the book comes to such a recipe is the idea that the active character of true love involves four basic elements: care, responsibility, respect, and knowledge (p. 24). Each of these is difficult to define and can differ markedly depending on the people involved and their circumstances. Seen in these terms, love is hard work, but it is also the most rewarding kind of work.
One of the most interesting concepts in the book is self-love. According to Fromm, loving oneself is quite different from being arrogant, conceited or egocentric. Loving oneself means caring about oneself, taking responsibility for oneself, respecting oneself, and knowing oneself (e.g. being realistic and honest about one's strengths and weaknesses). In order to be able to truly love another person, one needs first to love oneself in this way.
Fromm is sceptical of exclusive love, which he calls égoïsme à deux – a relationship in which each person is entirely focussed on the other, to the detriment of other people around them. In a healthy marriage, faithfulness applies to sex, but not to Fromm's concept of love, because love means a generally caring, responsible, respectful and honest attitude toward all other people.
The book includes explorations of the theories of brotherly love, motherly and fatherly love, erotic love, self-love, and the love of God (pp. 7–76), and an insightful examination into love's disintegration in contemporary Western culture (pp. 77–98).
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Not to be confused with Art of Love.
This article does not cite any references or sources. Please help improve this article by adding citations to reliable sources. Unsourced material may be challenged and removed. (November 2006)
The Art of Loving
Author(s) Erich Fromm
Publication date 1956
Media type Print
The Art of Loving is a book written by psychologist and social philosopher Erich Fromm (1900–80).[1] In this work, Fromm recapitulated and complemented the theoretical principles of human nature found in Fromm's Escape from Freedom and Man for Himself – principles which were revisited in many of his other major works.
Fromm presents love as a skill that can be taught and developed. He rejects the idea of loving as something magical and mysterious that cannot be analyzed and explained, and is therefore skeptical about popular ideas such as "falling in love" or being helpless in the face of love. Because modern humans are alienated from each other and from nature, we seek refuge from our aloneness in romantic love and marriage (pp. 79–81). However, Fromm observes that real love "is not a sentiment which can be easily indulged in by anyone." It is only through developing one's total personality to the capacity of loving one's neighbor with "true humility, courage, faith and discipline" that one attains the capacity to experience real love. This should be considered a rare achievement (p. vii).
We are starved for love, yet all our attempts to attain love in Western society are bound to fail, unless – like any thing else we want to do well – we practice and improve our self discipline, concentration and patience, and place high priority on our mastery of the art of loving (pp. 99–123). Readers will be disappointed if they expect the kind of easy answers and techniques often presented in self-help psychology bestsellers. Perhaps the closest that the book comes to such a recipe is the idea that the active character of true love involves four basic elements: care, responsibility, respect, and knowledge (p. 24). Each of these is difficult to define and can differ markedly depending on the people involved and their circumstances. Seen in these terms, love is hard work, but it is also the most rewarding kind of work.
One of the most interesting concepts in the book is self-love. According to Fromm, loving oneself is quite different from being arrogant, conceited or egocentric. Loving oneself means caring about oneself, taking responsibility for oneself, respecting oneself, and knowing oneself (e.g. being realistic and honest about one's strengths and weaknesses). In order to be able to truly love another person, one needs first to love oneself in this way.
Fromm is sceptical of exclusive love, which he calls égoïsme à deux – a relationship in which each person is entirely focussed on the other, to the detriment of other people around them. In a healthy marriage, faithfulness applies to sex, but not to Fromm's concept of love, because love means a generally caring, responsible, respectful and honest attitude toward all other people.
The book includes explorations of the theories of brotherly love, motherly and fatherly love, erotic love, self-love, and the love of God (pp. 7–76), and an insightful examination into love's disintegration in contemporary Western culture (pp. 77–98).
Celestine Prophecy Insight 5 Review
5. The key to overcoming conflict in the world is the mystical experience, which is available to everyone. To nurture the mystical and build your energy, allow yourself to be filled with a sense of love.
5. Energy abundance. In fact, competition is unnecessary because subtle energy exists in abundance. In particular, we can acquire more by eating plants which have high energy levels. (And we can ensure that the plants have high energy levels by paying attention to them, by giving them energy.) Being in a loving state not only connects our energy to the object of our love, but to a greater source of energy as well. This is the essence of mystical experience. The goal of mystical practice - and practice of the lessons of the Celestine Prophecy - is to get and remain connected with the energy. Moreover, a person's energy is the source of the meaningful coincidences noticed in the First Insight. Each mystical experience stretches a person's potential, causing them to exist "at a higher state of vibration".
The best description of all this comes a little later in the book. Father Sanchez says, "Love is not an intellectual concept or a moral imperative or anything else. It is a background emotion that exists when one is connected to the energy available in the universe, which , of course, is the energy of God."
As the awareness grows one will naturally wish to understand the energy, which will lead to the understanding and realization we dont need others to gain energy, and that one doesn’t need to compete anymore for energy from others, and will look for ways to increase energy on our own. And that we need to behin to feel the love from within first, and when this begins to build you will see that you dont need anyone, or have to rely upon anyone for energy or happiness anymore, and when we connect with this energy we can always access it, but we need to keep it active otherwise it will die down and we will forget, this is why its so hard for people to change because they forget and lose the connections they have made.
5. Energy abundance. In fact, competition is unnecessary because subtle energy exists in abundance. In particular, we can acquire more by eating plants which have high energy levels. (And we can ensure that the plants have high energy levels by paying attention to them, by giving them energy.) Being in a loving state not only connects our energy to the object of our love, but to a greater source of energy as well. This is the essence of mystical experience. The goal of mystical practice - and practice of the lessons of the Celestine Prophecy - is to get and remain connected with the energy. Moreover, a person's energy is the source of the meaningful coincidences noticed in the First Insight. Each mystical experience stretches a person's potential, causing them to exist "at a higher state of vibration".
The best description of all this comes a little later in the book. Father Sanchez says, "Love is not an intellectual concept or a moral imperative or anything else. It is a background emotion that exists when one is connected to the energy available in the universe, which , of course, is the energy of God."
As the awareness grows one will naturally wish to understand the energy, which will lead to the understanding and realization we dont need others to gain energy, and that one doesn’t need to compete anymore for energy from others, and will look for ways to increase energy on our own. And that we need to behin to feel the love from within first, and when this begins to build you will see that you dont need anyone, or have to rely upon anyone for energy or happiness anymore, and when we connect with this energy we can always access it, but we need to keep it active otherwise it will die down and we will forget, this is why its so hard for people to change because they forget and lose the connections they have made.
Tuesday, September 20, 2011
Celestine Prophecy Insight 4 Review
4. An unconscious competition for energy underlies all conflicts. By dominating or manipulating others, we get the extra energy we think we need. Sure, it feels good - but both parties are damaged in the conflict.
4. Competition for energy. A fundamental assumption underlies most human interactions: we must compete for this energy, drawing it from others and protecting ourselves from others' attempts to draw it from us. This leads to some nasty interactions.
This will naturally follow on from an increased awareness, stress, emotions, and will hopefuly lead people to question what is really important in life? what are the things i really need in life? why do the same things hapen to me in relationships? why are the same conflicts arising? This competition when you look at it from inside you will see that it exists everywhere, and that our egos hurt us, and others.
4. Competition for energy. A fundamental assumption underlies most human interactions: we must compete for this energy, drawing it from others and protecting ourselves from others' attempts to draw it from us. This leads to some nasty interactions.
This will naturally follow on from an increased awareness, stress, emotions, and will hopefuly lead people to question what is really important in life? what are the things i really need in life? why do the same things hapen to me in relationships? why are the same conflicts arising? This competition when you look at it from inside you will see that it exists everywhere, and that our egos hurt us, and others.
Monday, September 19, 2011
Celestine Prophecy Insight 3 Review
3. Start to get acquainted with the subtle energy that infuses all things. With practice, you can learn to see the aura around any living being and to project your own energy around it to give it strength.
3. Subtle energy. There is an energy, previously undetected by science, that forms the basis of all things. Human perception of that energy starts with an increased awareness of beauty: people, animals, plants, ecosystems that have a high level of that energy appear particularly beautiful. By becoming aware of that energy, we become able to notice when and how we give and receive energy
This is where the fun begins, and you can actually incorporate this "message" into your life. Becoming more mindful of your own actions and emotions will help this energy to arise. I also have to propose you start doing if you arent already meditation. You can learn from books, or the internet, but if you are having trouble, im sure you can find somewhere giving "lessons". This is also the beginning of when one can understand vibrations and resonannce. You will begin to pick on things and people a lot more, and by using your heart as the guide it will become clearer how to change your life. It will take time, and dont expect this to happen in a few hours days or even months.
3. Subtle energy. There is an energy, previously undetected by science, that forms the basis of all things. Human perception of that energy starts with an increased awareness of beauty: people, animals, plants, ecosystems that have a high level of that energy appear particularly beautiful. By becoming aware of that energy, we become able to notice when and how we give and receive energy
This is where the fun begins, and you can actually incorporate this "message" into your life. Becoming more mindful of your own actions and emotions will help this energy to arise. I also have to propose you start doing if you arent already meditation. You can learn from books, or the internet, but if you are having trouble, im sure you can find somewhere giving "lessons". This is also the beginning of when one can understand vibrations and resonannce. You will begin to pick on things and people a lot more, and by using your heart as the guide it will become clearer how to change your life. It will take time, and dont expect this to happen in a few hours days or even months.
Saturday, September 17, 2011
Celestine Prophecy Insight 2 Review
2. Observe our culture within its proper historical context. The first half of the past millennium was spent under the thumb of the church; in the second half we became preoccupied with material comfort. Now, at the end of the twentieth century, we've exhausted that preoccupation. We're ready to discover life's ultimate purpose.
2. Historical perspective. This point in human history can best be understood by a revisioning of the past millennium. In the early part of the millennium, human consciousness was dominated by beliefs promulgated by the Catholic Church: one's proper place in society, humanity at the center of the universe, and the battle between good and evil. These beliefs gave meaning to life. This domination was challenged during the Renaissance and Reformation. At that time, humanity established a grand project of exploring the world, using the tools of science, with the hope of getting a new answer to the meaning of life. While waiting for that answer to come in, attention turned to increasing material comfort. That project is now at an end--material comfort has been achieved, but we have lost touch with sources of meaning. Moreover, the answers we wanted are now appearing--not necessarily from institutional science, but from a variety of sources.
I find very few who are searching/discovering anything from the past and the preoccupation of money is blinding so many along with religion. Especially since so many still struggle for their basic daily needs. But the answers r not now appearing they have been with us for thousands of years, there are still to many people blinded. But I can see how the history of man has been leading to something, as the world comes together, and in areas of science , and the fact more and more people are leaving religion.
2. Historical perspective. This point in human history can best be understood by a revisioning of the past millennium. In the early part of the millennium, human consciousness was dominated by beliefs promulgated by the Catholic Church: one's proper place in society, humanity at the center of the universe, and the battle between good and evil. These beliefs gave meaning to life. This domination was challenged during the Renaissance and Reformation. At that time, humanity established a grand project of exploring the world, using the tools of science, with the hope of getting a new answer to the meaning of life. While waiting for that answer to come in, attention turned to increasing material comfort. That project is now at an end--material comfort has been achieved, but we have lost touch with sources of meaning. Moreover, the answers we wanted are now appearing--not necessarily from institutional science, but from a variety of sources.
I find very few who are searching/discovering anything from the past and the preoccupation of money is blinding so many along with religion. Especially since so many still struggle for their basic daily needs. But the answers r not now appearing they have been with us for thousands of years, there are still to many people blinded. But I can see how the history of man has been leading to something, as the world comes together, and in areas of science , and the fact more and more people are leaving religion.
Thursday, September 15, 2011
Stop UR EGO controlling ur emotions and ACtIoN, use LOVE
The moment you allow your ego to control you, you will be forever unhappy, and you will be restless and easily upset as the actions and motives only go to serve present moment fears, and attacks, but when you allow love to enter your heart and guide you in the world, your life will become simplified and people will welcome you, and they will open up to you, and you will be able to see and understand others better, and realize how many of the people in the world today commit acts that they had no intetion of doing, until their ego woke up and said YES.
Now is the time to allow love into your hearts, forgive those who have wronged you and know, you are a human being, equal to all that deserves love and care, but also understands others are not strong enough to let go.
Now is the time to allow love into your hearts, forgive those who have wronged you and know, you are a human being, equal to all that deserves love and care, but also understands others are not strong enough to let go.
All The Worlds Suffering Arises From Our Own Inability To
be satisfied with the present moment, we are constantly pushing blame onto others or giving false hope to future situations. There isn’t a problem in the world that can’t be solved by a mass shift in the human psyche. Crime would drop to almost zero, there would be little need for drugs, other than experimentation with perception, opening their minds to different realities, or for those who are unable to experience the energies that exist out there. The day to day stresses of life would no longer greatly affect people, physically or mentally. People’s health would improve and police and governments would be reduced to facilitators. Education would not only focus on numbers and books but also emotional and mental training, an increased awareness would be encourages and a better understanding of the root cause of suffering and our own emotions.
The two keys are letting go and Holding on
and
Detachment, and following up
There is little we can control in this world but our minds is one of them if we are given the tools to, and we practice and excercise these tools on a daily basis.
The two keys are letting go and Holding on
and
Detachment, and following up
There is little we can control in this world but our minds is one of them if we are given the tools to, and we practice and excercise these tools on a daily basis.
Tuesday, September 13, 2011
Celestine Prophecy Insight 1 Review
1. Meaningful coincidences. We are at a point in the developmental history of human consciousness where development will accelerate. The major evidence for this is the increased number of meaningful coincidences people are noticing in their lives.
Summary by Alan Atkisson (Aug/94)
1. Feeling restless? You're not alone: Everybody's starting to look for more meaning in life. Start paying closer attention to those seemingly "Chance Coincidences" - strange occurrences that feel like they were meant to happen. They are actually synchronistic events, and following them will start you on your path to spiritual truth.
http://www.gurus.org/dougdeb/Courses/bestsellers/Celestine/Insights.htm
http://deoxy.org/9insight.htm
I think its naïve and arrogant to say that we are any closer to a critical mass when still a large portion of the population are still so poor and with out decent living conditions, that they are more concerned about getting food and clothes. Also it’s going to take more than just an awareness of coincidences to create the critical mass. The restlessness arises from a basic awareness of something not quite right, but is still unable to recognize the cause. And who are the “Everybody” referred to, I still find in many cultures and counties the people aren’t even looking and are still so consumed by material gain, that I feel we are still year’s maybe decades away from this growing awareness to begin, let alone a critical mass that’s going to change the world. I fear that with advent of globalization, there is a very good chance that all countries will become more equal in the standards of living. Which could be the beginning of the end for us all, with so much hatred in the world caused by religion. The pressure will only increase for us all too just “get along”.
Summary by Alan Atkisson (Aug/94)
1. Feeling restless? You're not alone: Everybody's starting to look for more meaning in life. Start paying closer attention to those seemingly "Chance Coincidences" - strange occurrences that feel like they were meant to happen. They are actually synchronistic events, and following them will start you on your path to spiritual truth.
http://www.gurus.org/dougdeb/Courses/bestsellers/Celestine/Insights.htm
http://deoxy.org/9insight.htm
I think its naïve and arrogant to say that we are any closer to a critical mass when still a large portion of the population are still so poor and with out decent living conditions, that they are more concerned about getting food and clothes. Also it’s going to take more than just an awareness of coincidences to create the critical mass. The restlessness arises from a basic awareness of something not quite right, but is still unable to recognize the cause. And who are the “Everybody” referred to, I still find in many cultures and counties the people aren’t even looking and are still so consumed by material gain, that I feel we are still year’s maybe decades away from this growing awareness to begin, let alone a critical mass that’s going to change the world. I fear that with advent of globalization, there is a very good chance that all countries will become more equal in the standards of living. Which could be the beginning of the end for us all, with so much hatred in the world caused by religion. The pressure will only increase for us all too just “get along”.
Religion and Free Will can not exist together
how can people say God gave us free will, but then lays down all these rules and if u dont follow him u r forever damned?
Doesnt thaat sound hypocritical?
Doesnt thaat sound hypocritical?
Monday, September 12, 2011
Dont cry, Im here for you
for when u reach out for help, i will take your hand, n with our hands joined, our hearts can become one, and we can lift each other up
, message me, when this begins in large groups a change in the world will happen, im always here for you, to listen n love you
, message me, when this begins in large groups a change in the world will happen, im always here for you, to listen n love you
Sunday, September 11, 2011
Can u help me with my DREAM??????
I had a dream,
Im standing in an old english house, with creaking floor boards, grey and worn, i notice the sun light beam throu 2 windows, i c no door, out of the corner of my eye i c three pieces of what look like cardboard or is it rubber, i cant be sure but they r black, they r racing up n down the room on the worn floor, i catch 2 easily but the third seems to be a lot smarter, it jumps and swerves my advances, i cant catch it, then all of i sudden i stand up straight n say "I want to help you" instantly it stops, im able to pick it up like a rose from a garden, i hold it my hand for a second to try and c what it is, then i feel a prsence behind i turn around n theres a boy sitting on a bed but there is no bed, only a shadow, the looks as thou hes floating but i notice a shadow of a bed on the wall, he murmurs something i cant quite catch, all i can recall is he had an english accent, short blond hair n was wearing a school uniform, i asked the boy "whats the matter" he replied "i Know...... then i awake with terrible indigestion.......... I usually dont remeber dreams, so any1 who has a take on this or any questions please reply? Is there something im suppossed to do? Some one looking for me? or i them i need to find?
Im standing in an old english house, with creaking floor boards, grey and worn, i notice the sun light beam throu 2 windows, i c no door, out of the corner of my eye i c three pieces of what look like cardboard or is it rubber, i cant be sure but they r black, they r racing up n down the room on the worn floor, i catch 2 easily but the third seems to be a lot smarter, it jumps and swerves my advances, i cant catch it, then all of i sudden i stand up straight n say "I want to help you" instantly it stops, im able to pick it up like a rose from a garden, i hold it my hand for a second to try and c what it is, then i feel a prsence behind i turn around n theres a boy sitting on a bed but there is no bed, only a shadow, the looks as thou hes floating but i notice a shadow of a bed on the wall, he murmurs something i cant quite catch, all i can recall is he had an english accent, short blond hair n was wearing a school uniform, i asked the boy "whats the matter" he replied "i Know...... then i awake with terrible indigestion.......... I usually dont remeber dreams, so any1 who has a take on this or any questions please reply? Is there something im suppossed to do? Some one looking for me? or i them i need to find?
cRITICAL mASs
R U A PART OF THE NEW EVOLUTION?
r U TIRED OF THE SUFERING?
r U rEAdY tO MaKe THE next STeP IN eVOlUtion?
r U TIRED OF THE SUFERING?
r U rEAdY tO MaKe THE next STeP IN eVOlUtion?
The Matrix
= Religion---
What is the Matrix? Control. The Matrix is a computer-generated dream world built to keep us under control
What is the Matrix? Control. The Matrix is a computer-generated dream world built to keep us under control
Thursday, September 01, 2011
i wish
I wish I knew how to show people to see how much pain they cause others.
I wish I knew how to show people to see how much pain they cause themselves.
I wish I knew how to show people to see how love can save them.
I wish I knew how to show people to see how letting go is freedom.
I wish I knew how to show people to see into their own minds.
I wish I knew how to show people to see how money doesn't bring happiness.
I wish I knew how to show people to see how important family and friends are.
I wish I knew how to show people to see how your time is short.
I wish I knew how to show people to see how death is always near.
I wish I knew how to show people to see how you invite stress into your life.
I wish I knew how to show people to see how we are all equal.
I wish I knew how to show people to see how to stand up together.
I wish I knew how to show people to see that what you can buy isn't has useful as what's in your mind.
I wish I knew how to show people to see how to use drugs, and not let drugs use them.
I wish I knew how to show people to see how drugs can't always help you.
I wish I knew how to show people to see how much being dishonest hurt's others, but hurts you more in the long run.
I wish I knew how to show people to see all the power to change the world already exists within ur own being.
I wish I knew how to show people to see how know one can make them see but themselves.
I wish I knew how to show people to see how much pain they cause themselves.
I wish I knew how to show people to see how love can save them.
I wish I knew how to show people to see how letting go is freedom.
I wish I knew how to show people to see into their own minds.
I wish I knew how to show people to see how money doesn't bring happiness.
I wish I knew how to show people to see how important family and friends are.
I wish I knew how to show people to see how your time is short.
I wish I knew how to show people to see how death is always near.
I wish I knew how to show people to see how you invite stress into your life.
I wish I knew how to show people to see how we are all equal.
I wish I knew how to show people to see how to stand up together.
I wish I knew how to show people to see that what you can buy isn't has useful as what's in your mind.
I wish I knew how to show people to see how to use drugs, and not let drugs use them.
I wish I knew how to show people to see how drugs can't always help you.
I wish I knew how to show people to see how much being dishonest hurt's others, but hurts you more in the long run.
I wish I knew how to show people to see all the power to change the world already exists within ur own being.
I wish I knew how to show people to see how know one can make them see but themselves.
Thursday, August 04, 2011
If....by Rudyard Kipling
If you can keep your head when all about you
Are losing theirs and blaming it on you,
If you can trust yourself when all men doubt you,
But make allowance for their doubting too;
If you can wait and not be tired by waiting,
Or being lied about, don't deal in lies,
Or being hated, don't give way to hating,
And yet don't look too good, nor talk too wise:
If you can dream - and not make dreams your master;
If you can think - and not make thoughts your aim;
If you can meet with Triumph and Disaster
And treat those two impostors just the same;
If you can bear to hear the truth you've spoken
Twisted by knaves to make a trap for fools,
Or watch the things you gave your life to, broken,
And stoop and build 'em up with worn-out tools:
If you can make one heap of all your winnings
And risk it on one turn of pitch-and-toss,
And lose, and start again at your beginnings
And never breathe a word about your loss;
If you can force your heart and nerve and sinew
To serve your turn long after they are gone,
And so hold on when there is nothing in you
Except the Will which says to them: 'Hold on!'
If you can talk with crowds and keep your virtue,
Or walk with Kings - nor lose the common touch,
If neither foes nor loving friends can hurt you,
If all men count with you, but none too much;
If you can fill the unforgiving minute
With sixty seconds' worth of distance run,
Yours is the Earth and everything that's in it,
And - which is more - you'll be a Man, my son!
Are losing theirs and blaming it on you,
If you can trust yourself when all men doubt you,
But make allowance for their doubting too;
If you can wait and not be tired by waiting,
Or being lied about, don't deal in lies,
Or being hated, don't give way to hating,
And yet don't look too good, nor talk too wise:
If you can dream - and not make dreams your master;
If you can think - and not make thoughts your aim;
If you can meet with Triumph and Disaster
And treat those two impostors just the same;
If you can bear to hear the truth you've spoken
Twisted by knaves to make a trap for fools,
Or watch the things you gave your life to, broken,
And stoop and build 'em up with worn-out tools:
If you can make one heap of all your winnings
And risk it on one turn of pitch-and-toss,
And lose, and start again at your beginnings
And never breathe a word about your loss;
If you can force your heart and nerve and sinew
To serve your turn long after they are gone,
And so hold on when there is nothing in you
Except the Will which says to them: 'Hold on!'
If you can talk with crowds and keep your virtue,
Or walk with Kings - nor lose the common touch,
If neither foes nor loving friends can hurt you,
If all men count with you, but none too much;
If you can fill the unforgiving minute
With sixty seconds' worth of distance run,
Yours is the Earth and everything that's in it,
And - which is more - you'll be a Man, my son!
Saturday, July 23, 2011
FEAR
i know a lot of people like to say they dont get scared when watching a horror movie, but thats the reason why i go, is to feel that fear, otherwise why go? dont be ashamed of being afraid, there isnt a single being out that, that has never exprineced fear, enjoy it, watch it, know it for what it is
Narcissistic traits
Thomas suggests that narcissists typically display most, sometimes all, of the following traits:
An obvious self-focus in interpersonal exchanges
Problems in sustaining satisfying relationships
A lack of psychological awareness (see insight in psychology and psychiatry, egosyntonic)
Difficulty with empathy
Problems distinguishing the self from others (see narcissism and boundaries)
Hypersensitivity to any insults or imagined insults (see criticism and narcissists, narcissistic rage and narcissistic injury)
Vulnerability to shame rather than guilt
Haughty body language
Flattery towards people who admire and affirm them
Detesting those who do not admire them
Using other people without considering the cost of doing so
Pretending to be more important than they really are
Bragging (subtly but persistently) and exaggerating their achievements
Claiming to be an "expert" at many things
Inability to view the world from the perspective of other people
Denial of remorse and gratitude
Hotchkiss' seven deadly sins of narcissismHotchkiss identified what she called the seven deadly sins of narcissism:
Shamelessness: Shame is the feeling that lurks beneath all unhealthy narcissism, and the inability to process shame in healthy ways.
Magical thinking: Narcissists see themselves as perfect using distortion and illusion known as magical thinking. They also use projection to dump shame onto others.
Arrogance: A narcissist who is feeling deflated may reinflate by diminishing, debasing, or degrading somebody else.
Envy: A narcissist may secure a sense of superiority in the face of another person's ability by using contempt to minimize the other person.
Entitlement: Narcissists hold unreasonable expectations of particularly favorable treatment and automatic compliance because they consider themselves special. Failure to comply is considered an attack on their superiority, and the perpetrator is considered an "awkward" or "difficult" person. Defiance of their will is a narcissistic injury that can trigger narcissistic rage.
Exploitation: Can take many forms but always involves the exploitation of others without regard for their feelings or interests. Often the other is in a subservient position where resistance would be difficult or even impossible. Sometimes the subservience is not so much real as assumed.
Bad boundaries: Narcissists do not recognize that they have boundaries and that others are separate and are not extensions of themselves. Others either exist to meet their needs or may as well not exist at all. Those who provide narcissistic supply to the narcissist are treated as if they are part of the narcissist and are expected to live up to those expectations. In the mind of a narcissist there is no boundary between self and other.
An obvious self-focus in interpersonal exchanges
Problems in sustaining satisfying relationships
A lack of psychological awareness (see insight in psychology and psychiatry, egosyntonic)
Difficulty with empathy
Problems distinguishing the self from others (see narcissism and boundaries)
Hypersensitivity to any insults or imagined insults (see criticism and narcissists, narcissistic rage and narcissistic injury)
Vulnerability to shame rather than guilt
Haughty body language
Flattery towards people who admire and affirm them
Detesting those who do not admire them
Using other people without considering the cost of doing so
Pretending to be more important than they really are
Bragging (subtly but persistently) and exaggerating their achievements
Claiming to be an "expert" at many things
Inability to view the world from the perspective of other people
Denial of remorse and gratitude
Hotchkiss' seven deadly sins of narcissismHotchkiss identified what she called the seven deadly sins of narcissism:
Shamelessness: Shame is the feeling that lurks beneath all unhealthy narcissism, and the inability to process shame in healthy ways.
Magical thinking: Narcissists see themselves as perfect using distortion and illusion known as magical thinking. They also use projection to dump shame onto others.
Arrogance: A narcissist who is feeling deflated may reinflate by diminishing, debasing, or degrading somebody else.
Envy: A narcissist may secure a sense of superiority in the face of another person's ability by using contempt to minimize the other person.
Entitlement: Narcissists hold unreasonable expectations of particularly favorable treatment and automatic compliance because they consider themselves special. Failure to comply is considered an attack on their superiority, and the perpetrator is considered an "awkward" or "difficult" person. Defiance of their will is a narcissistic injury that can trigger narcissistic rage.
Exploitation: Can take many forms but always involves the exploitation of others without regard for their feelings or interests. Often the other is in a subservient position where resistance would be difficult or even impossible. Sometimes the subservience is not so much real as assumed.
Bad boundaries: Narcissists do not recognize that they have boundaries and that others are separate and are not extensions of themselves. Others either exist to meet their needs or may as well not exist at all. Those who provide narcissistic supply to the narcissist are treated as if they are part of the narcissist and are expected to live up to those expectations. In the mind of a narcissist there is no boundary between self and other.
Narcissism
Narcissism is the personality trait of egotism, vanity, conceit, or simple selfishness. Applied to a social group, it is sometimes used to denote elitism or an indifference to the plight of others.
The term "narcissism" was introduced by Havelock Ellis (later developed further by Freud in On Narcissism) after Narcissus who in Greek myth was a pathologically self-absorbed young man who fell in love with his own reflection in a pool. Freud believed that some narcissism is an essential part of all of us from birth. Andrew P. Morrison claims that, in adults, a reasonable amount of healthy narcissism allows the individual's perception of his needs to be balanced in relation to others. In Spanish, especially in Spain, where psychoanalysis is not used in public health, the word "narcissism" has a different meaning, i.e., "overindulgence at considering one's faculties or acts". Thus, the term "healthy narcissism" is replaced by "healthy self-love".
Some experts believe a disproportionate number of pathological narcissists are at work in the most influential reaches of society, such as medicine, finance, and politics.
Healthy Narcissism
High outward self-confidence in line with reality
May enjoy power
Real concern for others and their ideas; does not exploit or devalue others
Has values; follows through on plans
Healthy childhood with support for self-esteem and appropriate limits on behaviour towards others
Destructive Narcissism
An unrealistic sense of superiority ("Grandiose")
Pursues power at all costs, lacks normal inhibitions in its pursuit
Concerns limited to expressing socially appropriate response when convenient; devalues and exploits others without remorse
Lacks values; easily bored; often changes course
Traumatic childhood undercutting true sense of self-esteem and/or learning that he/she doesn't need to be considerate of others
The term "narcissism" was introduced by Havelock Ellis (later developed further by Freud in On Narcissism) after Narcissus who in Greek myth was a pathologically self-absorbed young man who fell in love with his own reflection in a pool. Freud believed that some narcissism is an essential part of all of us from birth. Andrew P. Morrison claims that, in adults, a reasonable amount of healthy narcissism allows the individual's perception of his needs to be balanced in relation to others. In Spanish, especially in Spain, where psychoanalysis is not used in public health, the word "narcissism" has a different meaning, i.e., "overindulgence at considering one's faculties or acts". Thus, the term "healthy narcissism" is replaced by "healthy self-love".
Some experts believe a disproportionate number of pathological narcissists are at work in the most influential reaches of society, such as medicine, finance, and politics.
Healthy Narcissism
High outward self-confidence in line with reality
May enjoy power
Real concern for others and their ideas; does not exploit or devalue others
Has values; follows through on plans
Healthy childhood with support for self-esteem and appropriate limits on behaviour towards others
Destructive Narcissism
An unrealistic sense of superiority ("Grandiose")
Pursues power at all costs, lacks normal inhibitions in its pursuit
Concerns limited to expressing socially appropriate response when convenient; devalues and exploits others without remorse
Lacks values; easily bored; often changes course
Traumatic childhood undercutting true sense of self-esteem and/or learning that he/she doesn't need to be considerate of others
we r one
Although today, Buddhism is viewed as a religion by many of its followers, the early Buddhists sects were either strongly atheistic or agnostic. The atheists believed that rather than "God having created man in his own image" it was man who had created "God" in his image. In their view, the liberation of humanity was contingent upon humanity shedding the delusion that "God" existed.
Moral Issues of Prostitution
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It's an Economic, Not a Moral Problem ... Usually
First of all, the most common kind of prostitution in Thailand is an economic, not a moral, issue. Most prostitutes come from the poor farming northeast ("Isaan") and speak a Thai-Lao or Thai-Khmer dialect. They have a 6 year government education from a country school (after that, it's not free). Their employment options are $100 per month jobs in factories doing 6 day weeks at long hours, or similar employment ... or far more money hanging around foreigners, getting exposure and learning real life things, and hanging around with their friends.
Most of them send a big chunk of their money back home to their family. Most don't take drugs or even smoke, and many don't drink alcohol.
It is cultural arrogant of people from wealthy countries to come here and preach about morality. Try having their background and their options.
In comparison, in rich countries there are many "matrimonial prostitutes", i.e., women who prefer to marry a rich man who will support them rather than work for their own money, pursue a career of their own, and find someone with a similar purpose in life, similar interests and similar values. Many people in rich countries never have enough money, and are very materialistic. That is more morally questionable.
However, in Thailand there is an increasing trend of young students entering prostitution in order to buy fashion items. There are also prostitutes who are addicted to gambling, alcohol and drugs. Plus there are scammers. Like the matrimonial prostitute, this is a moral matter of values and interests, not an economic necessity.
Forget Reform or Purpose
The vast majority of ladies who have been in the prostitution scene, and stayed there for more than a few weeks, cannot be reformed.
I've heard countless arguments from guys who have taken on a prostitute as a ladyfriend or wife and who defend them. In the vast majority of these cases, the relationship doesn't last much longer. Few have lasted. The guy is then reminded "I told you so!".
I don't want to dwell on the exceptions. The issue here is the 80%+ rule of relationship failure.
However, this does not mean that 80% are bad people. Not at all. It's just that they aren't going to be what the guy wants them to be. They have their own life, and they are free to choose which guy to marry. It is a fact that while going week to week you see mostly the same girls working in the bars, on the other hand if you leave the bar area for just 6 months and return, most girls have gone. Where did they go? Often, away with a new exclusive boyfriend / husband.
Even if no boyfriend (and many bargirls do not want another husband or boyfriend or any such dependency), I have known via friends and associates a lot of prostitutes and ex-prostitutes who I found to be responsible, good people who are sending money back home, don't do anything unethical, and are in completely understandable decision situations.
Most ladies in prostitution have at least one child and no husband -- a boyfriend or husband who just walked away and takes no financial or other responsibility. They are single parents. (I might question their choice of boyfriend/husband, but I've made foolish choices of girlfriend in my life, too, when I was a teenager.)
I have a huge amount of respect for prostitutes who save money and not only leave the profession permanently with no desire to return, but who also try to improve their life, e.g., by working to help their husband as homemaker or starting their own business such as selling clothes on the street or opening their own salon or whatever. There are many of these ex-prostitutes.
However, most prostitutes are lazy and just live day to day.
I'm convinced that the select population of career prostitutes are those who have certain personality tendencies.
Look at how they get introduced into the trade, who stays, vs. who doesn't follow thru or who quits soon thereafter. Many, many ladies have a trusted childhood friend who has a lot of money from prostitution, has become more sophisticated, and helps their family (usually). This childhood friend often introduces more ladies from the village to the trade. Some friends turn away immediately when they see how she's making her money, and some others may try it once and quit. Others will slowly try it but stay for awhile, hopefully finding a rich foreign boyfriend. However, some try it and dive right in enthusiastically!
Those who stay tend to be extroverted, sensational rather than intuitive, lazy and don't think much. For example, they often like to gamble. Gambling and prostitution are often associated with each other because they are both thrill activities. Not far away is usually drugs. These people will not occupy themselves with self-improvement activities, but will just take the next reactive, easy thrill.
The typical prostitute will never run a business of her own, or even do the home laundry or dishes. Anything that requires self-discipline and real work is not something they're going to do. They will sit around and watch TV all day until it's time to go to the go-go bar or pickup joint to get screwed -- "make money on their backs". Even if factories paid more, they would not go work there.
These ladies have no purpose in life, and if they're not getting screwed then they will be vegetating in front of the TV or hanging around playing cards and gambling. So they may as well provide the occasional relief that some busy guys need.
From the Thai perspective, their main purpose in life is to serve working men by providing sexual entertainment, to bring skilled foreign men and tourist money into Thailand, and to bring their money into the countryside.
The differences in education and experiences between the man and the lady is often vast.
People's personalities don't change. Maybe the children of prostitutes will become more productive members of society (especially if they're raised in a different environment), but the prostitutes themselves will not, in the vast majority of cases.
The difference between a typical prostitute and a typical mainstream lady are like night and day. (However, you have exceptions in both categories.)
A lot of foreigners consider paying 1000 baht for sex to be cheap, and they don't care what the lady does with it. I look at it this way: The typical university graduate starts at a salary of around 10,000 baht per month, or 500 baht per DAY. Why should guys be paying ladies that kind of money to lay on their backs and spread their legs? Look at how a lot of those ladies blow money -- taking taxis instead of buses, partying with friends, and so on. If they were sending the money home, that's different. The choosy ones don't get a customer every day, so they get a higher "consultant's pay scale". When I do people watching, and talk with ladies, these are the kinds of things that go thru my mind, and perhaps my own moral judgements / opinions.
In any case, it's a free world out there, and as long as they aren't bothering anyone else, and all this is consensual private business, then live and let live. Wildlife. Animal Planet: Showcase Sukhumvit. It's their background, subculture/personality, and realistic profession options. At least they're contributing some service to the GNP as entertainers (and exporting for foreign cash influx) instead of sitting at home watching TV and mooching off of siblings.
Postscript
I get a lot of positive feedback from this section, from both veterans as well as men who are new to Thailand. Based on feedback by email and the web form, the positive and neutral must outweigh the negative by somewhere around 50:1.
However, I also get criticisms, some of the messages very negative, judgemental, and even hateful. I use criticisms to improve my own viewpoints as well as to improve my website, but sometimes I think the improvement needs to come from the other side, and I feel sorry for stubborn people stuck in a cycle of negative emotions and bad attitude, who just don't see the light.
Some men say I put down bargirls too much, relative to mainstream Thai ladies. Maybe I do, but I respect bargirls and freelancers who are not scammers, and understand their options in life.
Some Thai women say I put down Thai women, with some saying that I imply all Thai women are bad like bargirls. (They didn't read much, did they?)
Some foreign women say I denigrate women.
My American girlfriend (when I first arrived) commented about the sweet attitudes and small bodies of Thai ladies, and then exclaimed "I hate Thai ladies!"
Some foreign men and foreign women try to put me down for even discussing prostitutes or Thai ladies in the way I do. I guess it is THEY who have a need to put down others, and show off how good and high status they are, by trying to put ME down.
Besides attitude problems, it is obvious that many of the people who send criticisms have not really read what I have written, or else read it with such a bad attitude and filters/blinders that they did not really comprehend what is written.
For example, I don't put down Thai women. Quite the contrary. I point out that prostitutes make up about 2% of the Thai female population, but just concentrate themselves where the business is, which includes a few square kilometers in the tourist and expat concentration areas in lower Sukhumvit and in Pattaya, out of all of Thailand, and make clear that mainstream Thai ladies are generally the opposite -- very conservative, trustworthy, and not promiscuous. However, I don't think I put down Thai prostitutes in general, either. Sure, I put down scammers. However, I don't put down prostitutes in general. There may be a mismatch between foreign guys' expectations and what the lady can or will provide naturally. But who is to judge who is at fault in a relationship that does not work out? Many prostitutes are good people. Just different situations and values.
Sometimes, I feel that people are venting their anger on me, when the source of their anger comes from another experience in their past. Like the employee who goes home after a bad day at work and kicks the dog. "Displaced aggression."
Some people want others to agree with their own political opinions, and tend to be a bit opinionated.
Run a website of substance, and you are sure to attract some heat (and envy, sometimes even obsession, but that's another topic...).
Let me just discuss a few things here:
First, anytime you discuss male-female relationships and sex, you will breed controversy. Many people have emotional reactions to these topics, for various reasons. It's largely instinct.
Many of the negative judgements I receive tend to be self-righteous or based on cultural arrogance.
The majority of the negative feedback comes from females (but most female feedback is not negative, just understanding -- I don't want anyone to infer that most females give negative feedback, because that's not the case!). I suspect that many of those people have frustrations with their own relationships with members of the opposite gender, or other sociopolitical agendas.
Secondly, any website guide which aims to discuss Thailand in a balanced way, and which tries to help people coming to Thailand to work and live, must cover the relationships between Thai ladies and foreign men, especially the most common kinds of Thai ladies who you find with a large sample of foreign men working and living in Thailand -- former prostitutes (or current prostitutes). If I avoided this subject, or told people what they wanted to hear, then I wouldn't be discussing Reality.
I'm not promoting prostitution, or Thai ladies, and I get no benefits from them. I have a guide to Thailand, and people are reading my website because they are already interested in Thailand. The Thai girlfriends section is just one section out of many about Thailand.
Third, this is the human experience, and consenting adults are free to do whatever they wish, as long as it doesn't impose on anyone else. If you feel that you are being imposed on, well, it's a big world and it is easy enough for you to go elsewhere to avoid this.
You can't change the world to be what you want it to be. It is better to accept the things you cannot change, and be tolerant and understanding. This is one of the good things about Thai people which makes this country so nice -- Thai people are tolerant. It is impolite to criticize and talk badly about people who are doing no harm to others. In the Land of Smiles, Thai people are understanding, compassionate, and not prone to arguments, relatively speaking.
I am a relatively nonjudgemental person. I try to understand the human experience and the great variety of people in this world, which includes what goes on in the expat concentration areas of Thailand. I try to help people. I have a background as an analyst. Also, I have a lot of compassion for people, and I try to understand a wide variety of people very different from myself. Often, what's right for me is not best for them, and vice versa, though I do try to understand others, and often in my work and social life I learn a lot vicariously. I like to learn and understand. I'm not going to tell other people how they should run their lives. That goes for both foreigners and Thais.
Yes, there are a lot of prostitutes. Most of them come from very poor backgrounds, mainly from "Isaan", the poor northeast. Try living there. Try making it in this world with a farm background and the standard 6 year government education, at a country school. Try having the option of working on the farm or else for $100/month in a factory doing monotonous things for long hours 6 days a week. If you don't want the free market of prostitution to exist, then what are you doing to create an alternative solution? I have volunteered for charities, and I worked for the US Agency for International Development (which is what originally pointed me to Bangkok, Thailand, the Asia regional office) at lower pay rates than I was offered to work for the purely private sector. I have "paid my dues". Have you walked the walk, or only talked the talk?
I've also had my experiences with western high society "matrimonial prostitutes" and ladies "dating rich guys", i.e., women who are attracted only to rich and successful men, both directly (though I never married one) and vicariously via many friends and associates. What's the difference between that and having an ex-bargirl Thai girlfriend?
I'm not saying either one is bad. Different people have different options, and it's all consensual between adults.
If some guys want to come to Thailand and have Thai lady, or many of them, that's their choice, and the ladies' choices. Most of the guys and most of the ladies are not so stupid and naive as to not know the basic risks, consequences, and benefits of these encounters, though they may not fully understand what's involved or each others' cultures and behavioral norms. I try to help the guys understand. (Also, I help the ladies understand when I talk with them, but they don't read English language websites, so I'd waste my time writing for them.)
Contrary to some complaints, I don't think I encourage guys to do one thing or another. There are different ways to analyze one's situation and options, and what a guy or Thai lady chooses to do depends mostly on their own values -- what is important to them. Not your values. I'm not going to impose my values on them, and I think many of them would not think highly of arrogant, inexperienced and self-limiting critics.
Sure, I have my own opinions and preferences. A lot of that comes out in this website. You are free to have yours, too. But think twice before trying to impose your values on others.
It is clear to me that a lot of critics, both foreign and Thai, don't have much experience in this world and don't realize a lot of what's going on. Let me tell you, I've been doing private investigations since 1997, and my company has a private investigations division. We've "seen it all", it seems. Hundreds of cases, maybe over 1000 by now, learning vicariously. Many of our customers give us the most intimate details. Our agents go out on assignments to socialize undercover with Thai ladies as well as foreign husbands.
We don't try to "get" people. We research, analyze and assess situations. In most situations, the results are not all good. If an outright scam for money is happening, then it's pretty simple. However, usually it's not that simple and we try to counsel our customers. For guys, we try to tell him the lady's viewpoint. In long distance relationships, foreign guys are often as unreliable as Thai ex-bargirls. Few ladies are "perfect". Or men. We encourage dialogue, working things out, and clear agreements when appropriate. Regarding cheating husbands, we ask the wife to understand the husband, not react by running to self-serving lawyers, just calm down for awhile and open up dialogue. I suggest things for her to discuss. We have helped wives and husbands save many marriages. Others, to understand and accept the situation.
The typical Thai lady agent is a university graduate and proper lady with prior work experience at other jobs, and with no experience with foreign men at first when she starts as an apprentice. (They prove far, FAR more reliable and quality workers than experienced ex-bargirls/freelancers.) It's a select population because they are interested in the job, but they adapt well to understanding in nonjudgemental ways. So, regarding emails we receive that are very negative, why do highly educated other people have such a difficult time with these issues? What is the difference between our agents and the hypercritical?
I could expand upon that, but I will leave it to others to ponder.
Suffice it to say that these lady agents ponder the situation and have no problem socializing undercover with most Thai ladies they encounter. If they can do it, then why can't others?
In Thai society, like any society, people of different classes are generally not close friends, just based on educational level, mannerisms, lifestyle, economic class, occupational field, and so on. However, they are mutually respectful and acknowledge others' places in society. Equality is an idealistic myth that some people give lip service to.
On the other hand, given some motivation or common interest, people of different classes in Thai society can mix remarkably well.
(Notably, in one of my first few social encounters in the USAID community, there were ex-prostitute girlfriends of government employees and contractors who were ostracized by a few of my colleagues. Not all, but a few. It seemed so hypocritical that some USAID professionals would prove so class-conscious. I have also experienced some of this in the purely private sector in Thailand, e.g., ex-prostitute girlfriends of managing directors, managers, or expat employees.)
I have been encouraged about how some ex-prostitute ladies have been able to adapt and mix socially, and improve their lives, but there are always natural class differences at least at the outset. These should not be misinterpreted as negative judgements, but just natural class differences. Intellectual class and economic class. I'm not talking moral class.
People who self-righteously put down others, or who express cultural arrogance, are themselves the questionable ones.
On this website, I do not encourage guys one way or another. I mainly try to help people understand what they are dealing with. I even have a section on Mating 101, to put human sexuality into perspective in one's greater life. I discuss the kinds of Thai ladies you are likely to meet in certain kinds of places in Thailand. I discuss the advantages and disadvantages of different kinds of Thai ladies. It's up to the man to decide for himself if he wants a Thai girlfriend, or casual relationships of mutual benefit, or whatever. Does he want a career wife or a subserviant lady? Assertive or peaceful? How important is education? (Usually not as important as personality and empathic compatibility.) And so on. Up to him.
When I first came to Thailand, it took me awhile to deal with some of my own hangups. Then I unabashedly went out to experience what other normal guys working in Thailand did. No regrets. However, I much preferred the suburbs, and more highly educated companionship with different kinds of personalities, different subsets and lifestyle choices. Nonetheless, everyone has their own lifestyle, and if you like socializing in pool halls and getting out and about in leisure and entertainment districts, then another match would suit you better.
I've also had people call me various names. Fine, if believing your delusion is what you need, that's your freedom. The reality is usually different, and it amazes me how much of a figment of peoples' imaginations I can be. It tells more about them than it does about myself. I write about my history in Thailand on my website. Nonetheless, if I wanted to be a whoremonger and encourage other guys to do the same, as it's a huge market, then I would have done just that, unabashedly, instead of what I have written. What you see is what you get.
Feedback is welcome, but if it's going to be useful, then please read the entire section. And look within yourself as well. There's no reason to have anger towards me.
Then perhaps it would be better for both yourself and me, and maybe some useful analysis will come out of it which we can contribute to this section.
Notably, I get quickly notified of copies of tracts by the CopyScape / CopySentry automatic search engine & notifier.
Short quotes are often OK and can be approved, if there is a clear reference and web link back to my website from the quoted material, and if you send me a short message. I try to help people with good intentions, and try to help the world. Not thieves. Links back to this website are helpful for sustainable progress, thank you!
Please have honor and class by following intellectual property and internet protocols. Be a good kind of person in life.
It's an Economic, Not a Moral Problem ... Usually
First of all, the most common kind of prostitution in Thailand is an economic, not a moral, issue. Most prostitutes come from the poor farming northeast ("Isaan") and speak a Thai-Lao or Thai-Khmer dialect. They have a 6 year government education from a country school (after that, it's not free). Their employment options are $100 per month jobs in factories doing 6 day weeks at long hours, or similar employment ... or far more money hanging around foreigners, getting exposure and learning real life things, and hanging around with their friends.
Most of them send a big chunk of their money back home to their family. Most don't take drugs or even smoke, and many don't drink alcohol.
It is cultural arrogant of people from wealthy countries to come here and preach about morality. Try having their background and their options.
In comparison, in rich countries there are many "matrimonial prostitutes", i.e., women who prefer to marry a rich man who will support them rather than work for their own money, pursue a career of their own, and find someone with a similar purpose in life, similar interests and similar values. Many people in rich countries never have enough money, and are very materialistic. That is more morally questionable.
However, in Thailand there is an increasing trend of young students entering prostitution in order to buy fashion items. There are also prostitutes who are addicted to gambling, alcohol and drugs. Plus there are scammers. Like the matrimonial prostitute, this is a moral matter of values and interests, not an economic necessity.
Forget Reform or Purpose
The vast majority of ladies who have been in the prostitution scene, and stayed there for more than a few weeks, cannot be reformed.
I've heard countless arguments from guys who have taken on a prostitute as a ladyfriend or wife and who defend them. In the vast majority of these cases, the relationship doesn't last much longer. Few have lasted. The guy is then reminded "I told you so!".
I don't want to dwell on the exceptions. The issue here is the 80%+ rule of relationship failure.
However, this does not mean that 80% are bad people. Not at all. It's just that they aren't going to be what the guy wants them to be. They have their own life, and they are free to choose which guy to marry. It is a fact that while going week to week you see mostly the same girls working in the bars, on the other hand if you leave the bar area for just 6 months and return, most girls have gone. Where did they go? Often, away with a new exclusive boyfriend / husband.
Even if no boyfriend (and many bargirls do not want another husband or boyfriend or any such dependency), I have known via friends and associates a lot of prostitutes and ex-prostitutes who I found to be responsible, good people who are sending money back home, don't do anything unethical, and are in completely understandable decision situations.
Most ladies in prostitution have at least one child and no husband -- a boyfriend or husband who just walked away and takes no financial or other responsibility. They are single parents. (I might question their choice of boyfriend/husband, but I've made foolish choices of girlfriend in my life, too, when I was a teenager.)
I have a huge amount of respect for prostitutes who save money and not only leave the profession permanently with no desire to return, but who also try to improve their life, e.g., by working to help their husband as homemaker or starting their own business such as selling clothes on the street or opening their own salon or whatever. There are many of these ex-prostitutes.
However, most prostitutes are lazy and just live day to day.
I'm convinced that the select population of career prostitutes are those who have certain personality tendencies.
Look at how they get introduced into the trade, who stays, vs. who doesn't follow thru or who quits soon thereafter. Many, many ladies have a trusted childhood friend who has a lot of money from prostitution, has become more sophisticated, and helps their family (usually). This childhood friend often introduces more ladies from the village to the trade. Some friends turn away immediately when they see how she's making her money, and some others may try it once and quit. Others will slowly try it but stay for awhile, hopefully finding a rich foreign boyfriend. However, some try it and dive right in enthusiastically!
Those who stay tend to be extroverted, sensational rather than intuitive, lazy and don't think much. For example, they often like to gamble. Gambling and prostitution are often associated with each other because they are both thrill activities. Not far away is usually drugs. These people will not occupy themselves with self-improvement activities, but will just take the next reactive, easy thrill.
The typical prostitute will never run a business of her own, or even do the home laundry or dishes. Anything that requires self-discipline and real work is not something they're going to do. They will sit around and watch TV all day until it's time to go to the go-go bar or pickup joint to get screwed -- "make money on their backs". Even if factories paid more, they would not go work there.
These ladies have no purpose in life, and if they're not getting screwed then they will be vegetating in front of the TV or hanging around playing cards and gambling. So they may as well provide the occasional relief that some busy guys need.
From the Thai perspective, their main purpose in life is to serve working men by providing sexual entertainment, to bring skilled foreign men and tourist money into Thailand, and to bring their money into the countryside.
The differences in education and experiences between the man and the lady is often vast.
People's personalities don't change. Maybe the children of prostitutes will become more productive members of society (especially if they're raised in a different environment), but the prostitutes themselves will not, in the vast majority of cases.
The difference between a typical prostitute and a typical mainstream lady are like night and day. (However, you have exceptions in both categories.)
A lot of foreigners consider paying 1000 baht for sex to be cheap, and they don't care what the lady does with it. I look at it this way: The typical university graduate starts at a salary of around 10,000 baht per month, or 500 baht per DAY. Why should guys be paying ladies that kind of money to lay on their backs and spread their legs? Look at how a lot of those ladies blow money -- taking taxis instead of buses, partying with friends, and so on. If they were sending the money home, that's different. The choosy ones don't get a customer every day, so they get a higher "consultant's pay scale". When I do people watching, and talk with ladies, these are the kinds of things that go thru my mind, and perhaps my own moral judgements / opinions.
In any case, it's a free world out there, and as long as they aren't bothering anyone else, and all this is consensual private business, then live and let live. Wildlife. Animal Planet: Showcase Sukhumvit. It's their background, subculture/personality, and realistic profession options. At least they're contributing some service to the GNP as entertainers (and exporting for foreign cash influx) instead of sitting at home watching TV and mooching off of siblings.
Postscript
I get a lot of positive feedback from this section, from both veterans as well as men who are new to Thailand. Based on feedback by email and the web form, the positive and neutral must outweigh the negative by somewhere around 50:1.
However, I also get criticisms, some of the messages very negative, judgemental, and even hateful. I use criticisms to improve my own viewpoints as well as to improve my website, but sometimes I think the improvement needs to come from the other side, and I feel sorry for stubborn people stuck in a cycle of negative emotions and bad attitude, who just don't see the light.
Some men say I put down bargirls too much, relative to mainstream Thai ladies. Maybe I do, but I respect bargirls and freelancers who are not scammers, and understand their options in life.
Some Thai women say I put down Thai women, with some saying that I imply all Thai women are bad like bargirls. (They didn't read much, did they?)
Some foreign women say I denigrate women.
My American girlfriend (when I first arrived) commented about the sweet attitudes and small bodies of Thai ladies, and then exclaimed "I hate Thai ladies!"
Some foreign men and foreign women try to put me down for even discussing prostitutes or Thai ladies in the way I do. I guess it is THEY who have a need to put down others, and show off how good and high status they are, by trying to put ME down.
Besides attitude problems, it is obvious that many of the people who send criticisms have not really read what I have written, or else read it with such a bad attitude and filters/blinders that they did not really comprehend what is written.
For example, I don't put down Thai women. Quite the contrary. I point out that prostitutes make up about 2% of the Thai female population, but just concentrate themselves where the business is, which includes a few square kilometers in the tourist and expat concentration areas in lower Sukhumvit and in Pattaya, out of all of Thailand, and make clear that mainstream Thai ladies are generally the opposite -- very conservative, trustworthy, and not promiscuous. However, I don't think I put down Thai prostitutes in general, either. Sure, I put down scammers. However, I don't put down prostitutes in general. There may be a mismatch between foreign guys' expectations and what the lady can or will provide naturally. But who is to judge who is at fault in a relationship that does not work out? Many prostitutes are good people. Just different situations and values.
Sometimes, I feel that people are venting their anger on me, when the source of their anger comes from another experience in their past. Like the employee who goes home after a bad day at work and kicks the dog. "Displaced aggression."
Some people want others to agree with their own political opinions, and tend to be a bit opinionated.
Run a website of substance, and you are sure to attract some heat (and envy, sometimes even obsession, but that's another topic...).
Let me just discuss a few things here:
First, anytime you discuss male-female relationships and sex, you will breed controversy. Many people have emotional reactions to these topics, for various reasons. It's largely instinct.
Many of the negative judgements I receive tend to be self-righteous or based on cultural arrogance.
The majority of the negative feedback comes from females (but most female feedback is not negative, just understanding -- I don't want anyone to infer that most females give negative feedback, because that's not the case!). I suspect that many of those people have frustrations with their own relationships with members of the opposite gender, or other sociopolitical agendas.
Secondly, any website guide which aims to discuss Thailand in a balanced way, and which tries to help people coming to Thailand to work and live, must cover the relationships between Thai ladies and foreign men, especially the most common kinds of Thai ladies who you find with a large sample of foreign men working and living in Thailand -- former prostitutes (or current prostitutes). If I avoided this subject, or told people what they wanted to hear, then I wouldn't be discussing Reality.
I'm not promoting prostitution, or Thai ladies, and I get no benefits from them. I have a guide to Thailand, and people are reading my website because they are already interested in Thailand. The Thai girlfriends section is just one section out of many about Thailand.
Third, this is the human experience, and consenting adults are free to do whatever they wish, as long as it doesn't impose on anyone else. If you feel that you are being imposed on, well, it's a big world and it is easy enough for you to go elsewhere to avoid this.
You can't change the world to be what you want it to be. It is better to accept the things you cannot change, and be tolerant and understanding. This is one of the good things about Thai people which makes this country so nice -- Thai people are tolerant. It is impolite to criticize and talk badly about people who are doing no harm to others. In the Land of Smiles, Thai people are understanding, compassionate, and not prone to arguments, relatively speaking.
I am a relatively nonjudgemental person. I try to understand the human experience and the great variety of people in this world, which includes what goes on in the expat concentration areas of Thailand. I try to help people. I have a background as an analyst. Also, I have a lot of compassion for people, and I try to understand a wide variety of people very different from myself. Often, what's right for me is not best for them, and vice versa, though I do try to understand others, and often in my work and social life I learn a lot vicariously. I like to learn and understand. I'm not going to tell other people how they should run their lives. That goes for both foreigners and Thais.
Yes, there are a lot of prostitutes. Most of them come from very poor backgrounds, mainly from "Isaan", the poor northeast. Try living there. Try making it in this world with a farm background and the standard 6 year government education, at a country school. Try having the option of working on the farm or else for $100/month in a factory doing monotonous things for long hours 6 days a week. If you don't want the free market of prostitution to exist, then what are you doing to create an alternative solution? I have volunteered for charities, and I worked for the US Agency for International Development (which is what originally pointed me to Bangkok, Thailand, the Asia regional office) at lower pay rates than I was offered to work for the purely private sector. I have "paid my dues". Have you walked the walk, or only talked the talk?
I've also had my experiences with western high society "matrimonial prostitutes" and ladies "dating rich guys", i.e., women who are attracted only to rich and successful men, both directly (though I never married one) and vicariously via many friends and associates. What's the difference between that and having an ex-bargirl Thai girlfriend?
I'm not saying either one is bad. Different people have different options, and it's all consensual between adults.
If some guys want to come to Thailand and have Thai lady, or many of them, that's their choice, and the ladies' choices. Most of the guys and most of the ladies are not so stupid and naive as to not know the basic risks, consequences, and benefits of these encounters, though they may not fully understand what's involved or each others' cultures and behavioral norms. I try to help the guys understand. (Also, I help the ladies understand when I talk with them, but they don't read English language websites, so I'd waste my time writing for them.)
Contrary to some complaints, I don't think I encourage guys to do one thing or another. There are different ways to analyze one's situation and options, and what a guy or Thai lady chooses to do depends mostly on their own values -- what is important to them. Not your values. I'm not going to impose my values on them, and I think many of them would not think highly of arrogant, inexperienced and self-limiting critics.
Sure, I have my own opinions and preferences. A lot of that comes out in this website. You are free to have yours, too. But think twice before trying to impose your values on others.
It is clear to me that a lot of critics, both foreign and Thai, don't have much experience in this world and don't realize a lot of what's going on. Let me tell you, I've been doing private investigations since 1997, and my company has a private investigations division. We've "seen it all", it seems. Hundreds of cases, maybe over 1000 by now, learning vicariously. Many of our customers give us the most intimate details. Our agents go out on assignments to socialize undercover with Thai ladies as well as foreign husbands.
We don't try to "get" people. We research, analyze and assess situations. In most situations, the results are not all good. If an outright scam for money is happening, then it's pretty simple. However, usually it's not that simple and we try to counsel our customers. For guys, we try to tell him the lady's viewpoint. In long distance relationships, foreign guys are often as unreliable as Thai ex-bargirls. Few ladies are "perfect". Or men. We encourage dialogue, working things out, and clear agreements when appropriate. Regarding cheating husbands, we ask the wife to understand the husband, not react by running to self-serving lawyers, just calm down for awhile and open up dialogue. I suggest things for her to discuss. We have helped wives and husbands save many marriages. Others, to understand and accept the situation.
The typical Thai lady agent is a university graduate and proper lady with prior work experience at other jobs, and with no experience with foreign men at first when she starts as an apprentice. (They prove far, FAR more reliable and quality workers than experienced ex-bargirls/freelancers.) It's a select population because they are interested in the job, but they adapt well to understanding in nonjudgemental ways. So, regarding emails we receive that are very negative, why do highly educated other people have such a difficult time with these issues? What is the difference between our agents and the hypercritical?
I could expand upon that, but I will leave it to others to ponder.
Suffice it to say that these lady agents ponder the situation and have no problem socializing undercover with most Thai ladies they encounter. If they can do it, then why can't others?
In Thai society, like any society, people of different classes are generally not close friends, just based on educational level, mannerisms, lifestyle, economic class, occupational field, and so on. However, they are mutually respectful and acknowledge others' places in society. Equality is an idealistic myth that some people give lip service to.
On the other hand, given some motivation or common interest, people of different classes in Thai society can mix remarkably well.
(Notably, in one of my first few social encounters in the USAID community, there were ex-prostitute girlfriends of government employees and contractors who were ostracized by a few of my colleagues. Not all, but a few. It seemed so hypocritical that some USAID professionals would prove so class-conscious. I have also experienced some of this in the purely private sector in Thailand, e.g., ex-prostitute girlfriends of managing directors, managers, or expat employees.)
I have been encouraged about how some ex-prostitute ladies have been able to adapt and mix socially, and improve their lives, but there are always natural class differences at least at the outset. These should not be misinterpreted as negative judgements, but just natural class differences. Intellectual class and economic class. I'm not talking moral class.
People who self-righteously put down others, or who express cultural arrogance, are themselves the questionable ones.
On this website, I do not encourage guys one way or another. I mainly try to help people understand what they are dealing with. I even have a section on Mating 101, to put human sexuality into perspective in one's greater life. I discuss the kinds of Thai ladies you are likely to meet in certain kinds of places in Thailand. I discuss the advantages and disadvantages of different kinds of Thai ladies. It's up to the man to decide for himself if he wants a Thai girlfriend, or casual relationships of mutual benefit, or whatever. Does he want a career wife or a subserviant lady? Assertive or peaceful? How important is education? (Usually not as important as personality and empathic compatibility.) And so on. Up to him.
When I first came to Thailand, it took me awhile to deal with some of my own hangups. Then I unabashedly went out to experience what other normal guys working in Thailand did. No regrets. However, I much preferred the suburbs, and more highly educated companionship with different kinds of personalities, different subsets and lifestyle choices. Nonetheless, everyone has their own lifestyle, and if you like socializing in pool halls and getting out and about in leisure and entertainment districts, then another match would suit you better.
I've also had people call me various names. Fine, if believing your delusion is what you need, that's your freedom. The reality is usually different, and it amazes me how much of a figment of peoples' imaginations I can be. It tells more about them than it does about myself. I write about my history in Thailand on my website. Nonetheless, if I wanted to be a whoremonger and encourage other guys to do the same, as it's a huge market, then I would have done just that, unabashedly, instead of what I have written. What you see is what you get.
Feedback is welcome, but if it's going to be useful, then please read the entire section. And look within yourself as well. There's no reason to have anger towards me.
Then perhaps it would be better for both yourself and me, and maybe some useful analysis will come out of it which we can contribute to this section.
A guide to the perfect Thai idiot
A guide to the perfect Thai idiot
Source: BangkokPost May 26 2010
In 1996, three Latin Americans wrote a best-selling book in Spanish which was later translated into English as Guide to the Perfect Latin American Idiot. Their main contention is that Latin American problems are not caused by outside influences as Latin Americans generally believe. Rather, they result mainly from actions of Latin Americans themselves.
Correcting Latin American problems, therefore, must come from Latin Americans.
Ask Thais about the causes of last week's shameful event - or of any problems in Thailand for that matter - and they will readily point the finger somewhere else, never at themselves.
I am a Thai so I am part of this well-practised response. But I now believe that if we continue with this long-running charade of self-deception, Thailand is on its way to becoming a failed state shortly.
We present Thailand as the Land of Smiles full of gentle Buddhists. We regularly give alms to monks and often make donations to temples, believing that those are selfless acts for the welfare of others.
Deep down, however, we do that only because we wish to get something in return - to go to heaven or have a richer next life. It is a trade, pure and simple, nothing kind or selfless about it.
Few of us give for the sake of giving. We are basically very selfish.
Every time we go to the temple or attend a Buddhist ceremony, we duly accept and recite the Five Precepts as a guide to our daily lives, but we leave them there, as we always make promises without ever intending to keep them.
Actually, we understand little about Buddhism.
Even among the ranks of the monks, most do not know the teachings in-depth and lead their lives accordingly - all they know is how to conduct ceremonies from which they earn easy income.
This reflects something deeper - we are generally lazy and like to take short-cuts to the sabai (do-nothing) state. Lottery tickets, therefore, always sell out at premium prices; prostitution is rampant and young women readily marry foreign pensioners.
We love to talk but rarely listen. Even when we do, we often fail to hear, as we never learn to think critically.
We cannot put up with different points of view nor can we work cooperatively.
Many of the over 30,000 Buddhist temples were built next to one another because when we disagreed with one, we just built another.
That the cooperative movement has never been successful here is another indication of our inability to tolerate different points of view.
We readily forgive, so we believe, as our most common utterance is mai pen rai (it doesn't matter) when someone makes a mistake. But that is only a reflection of the culture of indifference and ready rationalisation.
We can always cite a well-known proverb, a famous poem or a sage's sharp utterance to justify everything we do.
We complain so much about corruption. But we do little about it.
Worse, we keep electing the same corrupt politicians because they have money and influence from which we hope to benefit.
Survey after survey shows that the majority of us do not mind corruption as long as we get something out of it.
One of the surveys last year showed that almost 85% of us believed that cheating was a normal business practice, making us practically a nation of thieves.
When I raised the matter in this column, I received the angriest responses from fellow Thais, using expressions so colourful that they should not be printed nor uttered within earshot of other humans.
This long-running self-deception has created so much moral deficit, to employ Joseph Stiglitz's terminology, that has put Thailand into a state of moral crisis for some time now. Some of the symptoms of this state are the economic crisis of 1997 and the protests culminating in last week's events.
Of course, we will never admit this, for we are perfect and will continue to be very angry when a foreigner utters something non-complementary about us.
But I do hope that the events of last week shock most of us into re-examining ourselves, our values, and start reducing the moral deficit as well as trying to generate some moral surplus: doing more genuinely voluntary work for the common good similar to the street cleaning carried out by Bangkokians last weekend, but on a regular basis.
Source: BangkokPost May 26 2010
In 1996, three Latin Americans wrote a best-selling book in Spanish which was later translated into English as Guide to the Perfect Latin American Idiot. Their main contention is that Latin American problems are not caused by outside influences as Latin Americans generally believe. Rather, they result mainly from actions of Latin Americans themselves.
Correcting Latin American problems, therefore, must come from Latin Americans.
Ask Thais about the causes of last week's shameful event - or of any problems in Thailand for that matter - and they will readily point the finger somewhere else, never at themselves.
I am a Thai so I am part of this well-practised response. But I now believe that if we continue with this long-running charade of self-deception, Thailand is on its way to becoming a failed state shortly.
We present Thailand as the Land of Smiles full of gentle Buddhists. We regularly give alms to monks and often make donations to temples, believing that those are selfless acts for the welfare of others.
Deep down, however, we do that only because we wish to get something in return - to go to heaven or have a richer next life. It is a trade, pure and simple, nothing kind or selfless about it.
Few of us give for the sake of giving. We are basically very selfish.
Every time we go to the temple or attend a Buddhist ceremony, we duly accept and recite the Five Precepts as a guide to our daily lives, but we leave them there, as we always make promises without ever intending to keep them.
Actually, we understand little about Buddhism.
Even among the ranks of the monks, most do not know the teachings in-depth and lead their lives accordingly - all they know is how to conduct ceremonies from which they earn easy income.
This reflects something deeper - we are generally lazy and like to take short-cuts to the sabai (do-nothing) state. Lottery tickets, therefore, always sell out at premium prices; prostitution is rampant and young women readily marry foreign pensioners.
We love to talk but rarely listen. Even when we do, we often fail to hear, as we never learn to think critically.
We cannot put up with different points of view nor can we work cooperatively.
Many of the over 30,000 Buddhist temples were built next to one another because when we disagreed with one, we just built another.
That the cooperative movement has never been successful here is another indication of our inability to tolerate different points of view.
We readily forgive, so we believe, as our most common utterance is mai pen rai (it doesn't matter) when someone makes a mistake. But that is only a reflection of the culture of indifference and ready rationalisation.
We can always cite a well-known proverb, a famous poem or a sage's sharp utterance to justify everything we do.
We complain so much about corruption. But we do little about it.
Worse, we keep electing the same corrupt politicians because they have money and influence from which we hope to benefit.
Survey after survey shows that the majority of us do not mind corruption as long as we get something out of it.
One of the surveys last year showed that almost 85% of us believed that cheating was a normal business practice, making us practically a nation of thieves.
When I raised the matter in this column, I received the angriest responses from fellow Thais, using expressions so colourful that they should not be printed nor uttered within earshot of other humans.
This long-running self-deception has created so much moral deficit, to employ Joseph Stiglitz's terminology, that has put Thailand into a state of moral crisis for some time now. Some of the symptoms of this state are the economic crisis of 1997 and the protests culminating in last week's events.
Of course, we will never admit this, for we are perfect and will continue to be very angry when a foreigner utters something non-complementary about us.
But I do hope that the events of last week shock most of us into re-examining ourselves, our values, and start reducing the moral deficit as well as trying to generate some moral surplus: doing more genuinely voluntary work for the common good similar to the street cleaning carried out by Bangkokians last weekend, but on a regular basis.
If a country is to have such "weak" morals, would it not also be safe to say "weak" ethics?
a branch of philosophy that addresses questions about morality—that is, concepts such as good and evil, right and wrong, virtue and vice, justice, etc
Therefor the next stage would be to ask, where do morals come from?
now many say religion, but as we can see that arguement can not possible stand here.
Socrates (469 BC – 399 BC) was one of the first Greek philosophers to encourage both scholars and the common citizen to turn their attention from the outside world to the condition of humankind. In this view, knowledge having a bearing on human life was placed highest, all other knowledge being secondary.
Aristotle (384 BC – 322 BC) posited an ethical system that may be termed "self-realizationism." In Aristotle's view, when a person acts in accordance with his nature and realizes his full potential, he will do good and be content.
Hedonism posits that the principle ethic is maximizing pleasure and minimizing pain. There are several schools of Hedonist thought ranging from those advocating the indulgence of even momentary desires to those teaching a pursuit of spiritual bliss. In their consideration of consequences, they range from those advocating self-gratification regardless of the pain and expense to others, to those stating that the most ethical pursuit maximizes pleasure and happiness for the most people.
Cyrenaic hedonism Founded by Aristippus of Cyrene, Cyrenaics supported immediate gratification or pleasure. "Eat, drink and be merry, for tomorrow we die." Even fleeting desires should be indulged, for fear the opportunity should be forever lost. There was little to no concern with the future, the present dominating in the pursuit for immediate pleasure. Cyrenaic hedonism encouraged the pursuit of enjoyment and indulgence without hesitation, believing pleasure to be the only good
The Stoic philosopher Epictetus posited that the greatest good was contentment and serenity. Peace of mind, or Apatheia, was of the highest value; self-mastery over one's desires and emotions leads to spiritual peace.
Thus, from a consequentialist standpoint, a morally right action is one that produces a good outcome, or consequence. This view is often expressed as the aphorism "The ends justify the means".
What sort of consequences count as good consequences?
Who is the primary beneficiary of moral action?
How are the consequences judged and who judges them?
One way to divide various consequentialisms is by the types of consequences that are taken to matter most, that is, which consequences count as good states of affairs. According to hedonistic utilitarianism, a good action is one that results in an increase in pleasure, and the best action is one that results in the most pleasure for the greatest number. Closely related is eudaimonic consequentialism, according to which a full, flourishing life, which may or may not be the same as enjoying a great deal of pleasure, is the ultimate aim. Similarly, one might adopt an aesthetic consequentialism, in which the ultimate aim is to produce beauty. However, one might fix on non-psychological goods as the relevant effect. Thus, one might pursue an increase in material equality or political liberty instead of something like the more ephemeral "pleasure". Other theories adopt a package of several goods, all to be promoted equally. Whether a particular consequentialist theory focuses on a single good or many, conflicts and tensions between different good states of affairs are to be expected and must be adjudicated.
Immanuel Kant's theory of ethics is considered deontological for several different reasons. First, Kant argues that to act in the morally right way, people must act from duty (deon). Second, Kant argued that it was not the consequences of actions that make them right or wrong but the motives of the person who carries out the action.
THIS I CAN NOT AGREE WITH, BECAUSE WHAT IS RIGHT AND WRONG?
Narcissism is the personality trait of egotism, vanity, conceit, or simple selfishness. Applied to a social group, it is sometimes used to denote elitism or an indifference to the plight of others.
maybe this can answer some of it.
Cutting directly to the point, morals and ethics are part of society and culture. But when it comes to sex, we are talking instincts and human nature to seek it out. When you try to mix the two together, you end up with a mess by trying to punish someone for being human.
Morals and ethics vs Thailand’s naughty nightlife
Posted on February 7th, 2010 by Richard
April 20th, 2011 by The Lost Boy
The big story coming out of Thailand over Songkran (Thai New Year) was the three teenage girls who stripped off and danced topless during a street party in the Silom nightlife zone. Photos and videos of the three girls surfaced and the Interwebs immediately came alight with shows of support for the girls and complimentary, witty comments being made about their breasts, and breasts in general. Then it was revealed that the girls are 13, 14 and 16.
Chalidaporn Songsamphan, an associate professor at Thammasat University in Bangkok, said Thais were uncomfortable when sexuality was displayed in public. And, she said, the anger directed at the topless dancers was a way for people to channel their frustrations about wider social problems, like alcoholism, low test scores among students and teenage delinquency. (NYT)
The fury only came after Culture Minister Niphit Intharasombat lambasted the three teenage girls for offending the country's culture.
What about the culture of heavy drinking? What about the rowdy crowd and the culture which treats women as sex objects? What about the commercial culture that pushes for girls' early sexuality or makes women think that flashing the flesh is a sign of self confidence?
Our culture maintains the good girl/bad girl divide to endorse men's sexual promiscuity, which allows the business of sexual exploitation to prosper.
The culture of blaming it all on bad girls allows the real culprits to get away with murder.
Not allowed to have hair of an "unacceptable" length (whatever that is?!)
Not allowed to have "seemingly" unclean clothes (many poor students have stained shirts. They are vilified for this. On many occasions, they end up leaving the education system).
Are allowed to gouge huge lumps of snot from their noses whenever & wherever they please.
Are not allowed to pick food from their teeth unless the mouth is covered.
Are allowed to hack, cough & sneeze all over anybody.
Are allowed to blow snot from their noses whenever & wherever they wish (block one nostril & blow out to clear the free nostril).
Are allowed to spit wherever & whenever they please.
Are not dissuaded from littering.
Therefor the next stage would be to ask, where do morals come from?
now many say religion, but as we can see that arguement can not possible stand here.
Socrates (469 BC – 399 BC) was one of the first Greek philosophers to encourage both scholars and the common citizen to turn their attention from the outside world to the condition of humankind. In this view, knowledge having a bearing on human life was placed highest, all other knowledge being secondary.
Aristotle (384 BC – 322 BC) posited an ethical system that may be termed "self-realizationism." In Aristotle's view, when a person acts in accordance with his nature and realizes his full potential, he will do good and be content.
Hedonism posits that the principle ethic is maximizing pleasure and minimizing pain. There are several schools of Hedonist thought ranging from those advocating the indulgence of even momentary desires to those teaching a pursuit of spiritual bliss. In their consideration of consequences, they range from those advocating self-gratification regardless of the pain and expense to others, to those stating that the most ethical pursuit maximizes pleasure and happiness for the most people.
Cyrenaic hedonism Founded by Aristippus of Cyrene, Cyrenaics supported immediate gratification or pleasure. "Eat, drink and be merry, for tomorrow we die." Even fleeting desires should be indulged, for fear the opportunity should be forever lost. There was little to no concern with the future, the present dominating in the pursuit for immediate pleasure. Cyrenaic hedonism encouraged the pursuit of enjoyment and indulgence without hesitation, believing pleasure to be the only good
The Stoic philosopher Epictetus posited that the greatest good was contentment and serenity. Peace of mind, or Apatheia, was of the highest value; self-mastery over one's desires and emotions leads to spiritual peace.
Thus, from a consequentialist standpoint, a morally right action is one that produces a good outcome, or consequence. This view is often expressed as the aphorism "The ends justify the means".
What sort of consequences count as good consequences?
Who is the primary beneficiary of moral action?
How are the consequences judged and who judges them?
One way to divide various consequentialisms is by the types of consequences that are taken to matter most, that is, which consequences count as good states of affairs. According to hedonistic utilitarianism, a good action is one that results in an increase in pleasure, and the best action is one that results in the most pleasure for the greatest number. Closely related is eudaimonic consequentialism, according to which a full, flourishing life, which may or may not be the same as enjoying a great deal of pleasure, is the ultimate aim. Similarly, one might adopt an aesthetic consequentialism, in which the ultimate aim is to produce beauty. However, one might fix on non-psychological goods as the relevant effect. Thus, one might pursue an increase in material equality or political liberty instead of something like the more ephemeral "pleasure". Other theories adopt a package of several goods, all to be promoted equally. Whether a particular consequentialist theory focuses on a single good or many, conflicts and tensions between different good states of affairs are to be expected and must be adjudicated.
Immanuel Kant's theory of ethics is considered deontological for several different reasons. First, Kant argues that to act in the morally right way, people must act from duty (deon). Second, Kant argued that it was not the consequences of actions that make them right or wrong but the motives of the person who carries out the action.
THIS I CAN NOT AGREE WITH, BECAUSE WHAT IS RIGHT AND WRONG?
Narcissism is the personality trait of egotism, vanity, conceit, or simple selfishness. Applied to a social group, it is sometimes used to denote elitism or an indifference to the plight of others.
maybe this can answer some of it.
Cutting directly to the point, morals and ethics are part of society and culture. But when it comes to sex, we are talking instincts and human nature to seek it out. When you try to mix the two together, you end up with a mess by trying to punish someone for being human.
Morals and ethics vs Thailand’s naughty nightlife
Posted on February 7th, 2010 by Richard
April 20th, 2011 by The Lost Boy
The big story coming out of Thailand over Songkran (Thai New Year) was the three teenage girls who stripped off and danced topless during a street party in the Silom nightlife zone. Photos and videos of the three girls surfaced and the Interwebs immediately came alight with shows of support for the girls and complimentary, witty comments being made about their breasts, and breasts in general. Then it was revealed that the girls are 13, 14 and 16.
Chalidaporn Songsamphan, an associate professor at Thammasat University in Bangkok, said Thais were uncomfortable when sexuality was displayed in public. And, she said, the anger directed at the topless dancers was a way for people to channel their frustrations about wider social problems, like alcoholism, low test scores among students and teenage delinquency. (NYT)
The fury only came after Culture Minister Niphit Intharasombat lambasted the three teenage girls for offending the country's culture.
What about the culture of heavy drinking? What about the rowdy crowd and the culture which treats women as sex objects? What about the commercial culture that pushes for girls' early sexuality or makes women think that flashing the flesh is a sign of self confidence?
Our culture maintains the good girl/bad girl divide to endorse men's sexual promiscuity, which allows the business of sexual exploitation to prosper.
The culture of blaming it all on bad girls allows the real culprits to get away with murder.
Not allowed to have hair of an "unacceptable" length (whatever that is?!)
Not allowed to have "seemingly" unclean clothes (many poor students have stained shirts. They are vilified for this. On many occasions, they end up leaving the education system).
Are allowed to gouge huge lumps of snot from their noses whenever & wherever they please.
Are not allowed to pick food from their teeth unless the mouth is covered.
Are allowed to hack, cough & sneeze all over anybody.
Are allowed to blow snot from their noses whenever & wherever they wish (block one nostril & blow out to clear the free nostril).
Are allowed to spit wherever & whenever they please.
Are not dissuaded from littering.
Friday, July 22, 2011
Are there any morals in this country???
A person's standards of behavior or beliefs concerning what is and is not acceptable for them to do.
Is a sense of behavioral conduct that differentiates intentions, decisions, and actions between those that are good (or right) and bad (or wrong).
The major virtues they identified include wisdom / knowledge; courage; humanity; justice; temperance; and transcendence. Each of these includes several divisions. For instance humanity includes love, kindness, and social intelligence.
Humans consequently evolved "pro-social" emotions, such as feelings of empathy or guilt, in response to these moral behaviors.
Published : July 20, 2011 :: 18:07:37 Bellboy Arrested For Putting “Sex Pill” into Co-Worker’s Iced-Tea
Published : July 21, 2011 :: 19:07:45 Two Teen Lady Boy Pick Pocket Russian Tourist
Published : August 03, 2010 :: 13:08:33 Thai Man Arrested for Raping his own Daughter in Pattaya
Published : June 18, 2011 :: 07:06:35 Pattaya Grade 8 Student Rapes Grade 6 Student in School Toilet
Published : October 18, 2010 :: 12:10:44 Pregnant Woman Fights off Rape by Man Impersonating Police
Published : June 26, 2011 :: 07:06:58 79 Year Old Retired Teacher Swindled by a Trickser
Published : October 17, 2010 :: 15:10:17 Thai Man Arrested over Rape of Friends Two Teenage Daughters
Published : April 07, 2010 :: 16:04:31 Habitual Offender Caught In Pattaya For Raping a Minor
Published : February 16, 2010 :: 10:02:49 Norwegian National Robbed & Assaulted on Pattaya Beach
Published : June 18, 2011 :: 07:06:23 BKK Lady Boy Swindling Japanese Arrested
Published : September 12, 2010 :: 14:09:55 Violent Pattaya Stabbing Attack Fuelled by Illegal Thai Whiskey
22nd July 2011 Confused elderly Woman thrown off Bus and left in Central Pattaya
22nd July 2011 Banglamung Convenience store owner arrested on drug dealing charges
Published : August 24, 2010 :: 18:08:19 7 Young Men Arrested over Calculated Rape of 2 Minors
Published : April 03, 2010 :: 17:04:40 Drug-Crazed Brother Makes Man’s Life A Misery Near Pattaya
Published : October 01, 2010 :: 12:10:33 Elderly Woman Caught-up in Banglamung Police Crackdown
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Drug crazed man stabs brother to death
Published : October 20, 2010 :: 13:10:37 [ 12,508 views ]
Russian Real Estate Investor Brutally Murdered in Pattaya
Published : June 01, 2011 :: 15:06:29 [ 3,090 views ]
Man Stabbed To Death Possibly By Wife’s Lover, Police say
Published : March 26, 2010 :: 14:03:57 [ 1,441 views ]
No Breakthrough In Pattaya Dismembered Baby Case
Published : June 25, 2010 :: 12:06:27 [ 6,336 views ]
Jealous Man Commits Murder-Suicide Near Pattaya
Published : April 15, 2011 :: 14:04:28 [ 4,929 views ]
Raging Wife Hires Hitmen to Shoot Her Husband
Published : April 07, 2011 :: 09:04:26 [ 2,808 views ]
Injured Teenagers Survive The Shooting
Published : January 06, 2010 :: 13:01:09 [ 2,183 views ]
Pattaya Taxi Driver Threatens the Public with Revolver
Published : September 09, 2010 :: 12:09:53 [ 4,435 views ]
Brutal Meat Cleaver Attackers Caught After 8 Month Search
Published : June 18, 2010 :: 15:06:24 [ 12,830 views ]
Brit Robbed by Thieving Gang of Katoey’s in Pattaya
Published : February 09, 2010 :: 13:02:02 [ 14,686 views ]
British National Drugged and Robbed by Pattaya Prostitute
Published : July 27, 2010 :: 13:07:57 [ 6,663 views ]
Spiked Drinks Result in Robbery of Jordanians at Pattaya Hotel
Girl, 5, and politician killed as gunmen open fire at temple
19/07/2011
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Pattaya Sex Worker Drugs & Rips Clients Blind
Published : July 09, 2010 :: 17:07:45 [ 8,150 views ]
Indians Fall Victim to Pattaya Bargirl Drugging Theft
Gunmen attack temple crowd, kill 2
18/07/2011
Islamic school teacher killed
10/07/2011
City cabbie nabbed for robbing, attempting to rape passenger
02/07/2011 :
Suspects arrested for killing three tigers
30/06/2011
Another BJT canvasser murdered Bhumjaithai Party
27/06/2011 :
Wildlife smuggling trails go ever deeper
27/06/2011 :
Suban murder suspect arrested
26/06/2011 : Police have rounded up one of the suspects allegedly involved in the murder of key Bhumjaithai Party canvasser Suban Jirapunvanit on June 16.
Bombs, gunmen kill and maim in South
24/06/2011 : Two men working on an irrigation project were killed and five others injured in a bomb explosion at their dormitory in Narathiwat on Friday.
e rise of the order of assassins
20/06/2011 : A dissertation on "hitman agencies" has pointed out to the need to set up a special police unit to deal directly and more effectively with the growing number of professional killers.
PAO chief killed in daring attack
16/06/2011 : The president of the Lop Buri provincial administration organisation was killed and two others, his wife and secretary, wounded in a broad daylight attack by a gunman in Phra Nakhon district on Thursday afternoon.
Slain girl's parents live in fear
04/06/2011 : CHIANG RAI : Parents of a slain hilltribe girl have sought protection from police after the man charged with her murder _ the mayor of their tambon _ was freed on bail and a key witness in the case died mysteriously.
DSI urged to prioritise human trafficking
02/06/2011 : The Department of Special Investigations should make human trafficking cases a priority, says Eaklak Loomchomkha, chief of the anti-human trafficking non-governmental organisation Mirror Foundation.
Man gets life for bus stop murder
31/05/2011 : The Criminal Court on Tuesday sentenced a man to life in prison for murder, robbery and attempted rape of a woman hotel receptionist in 2009.
Democrat canvasser's house attacked
26/05/2011 : The house of a political canvasser for the Democrat Party in Bung Kum district was attacked by an unknown number of gunmen early on Thursday morning, police said.
Loan sharks defy crackdown
23/05/2011 : Loan sharks preying on low-income parents who borrowed from them to pay back-to-school expenses for their children are posing a headache for police.
Killers boasted of rape (Brit tourist gangraped and murdered in Thailand)
Sydney Morning Herald Jan. 11, 2005
Is a sense of behavioral conduct that differentiates intentions, decisions, and actions between those that are good (or right) and bad (or wrong).
The major virtues they identified include wisdom / knowledge; courage; humanity; justice; temperance; and transcendence. Each of these includes several divisions. For instance humanity includes love, kindness, and social intelligence.
Humans consequently evolved "pro-social" emotions, such as feelings of empathy or guilt, in response to these moral behaviors.
Published : July 20, 2011 :: 18:07:37 Bellboy Arrested For Putting “Sex Pill” into Co-Worker’s Iced-Tea
Published : July 21, 2011 :: 19:07:45 Two Teen Lady Boy Pick Pocket Russian Tourist
Published : August 03, 2010 :: 13:08:33 Thai Man Arrested for Raping his own Daughter in Pattaya
Published : June 18, 2011 :: 07:06:35 Pattaya Grade 8 Student Rapes Grade 6 Student in School Toilet
Published : October 18, 2010 :: 12:10:44 Pregnant Woman Fights off Rape by Man Impersonating Police
Published : June 26, 2011 :: 07:06:58 79 Year Old Retired Teacher Swindled by a Trickser
Published : October 17, 2010 :: 15:10:17 Thai Man Arrested over Rape of Friends Two Teenage Daughters
Published : April 07, 2010 :: 16:04:31 Habitual Offender Caught In Pattaya For Raping a Minor
Published : February 16, 2010 :: 10:02:49 Norwegian National Robbed & Assaulted on Pattaya Beach
Published : June 18, 2011 :: 07:06:23 BKK Lady Boy Swindling Japanese Arrested
Published : September 12, 2010 :: 14:09:55 Violent Pattaya Stabbing Attack Fuelled by Illegal Thai Whiskey
22nd July 2011 Confused elderly Woman thrown off Bus and left in Central Pattaya
22nd July 2011 Banglamung Convenience store owner arrested on drug dealing charges
Published : August 24, 2010 :: 18:08:19 7 Young Men Arrested over Calculated Rape of 2 Minors
Published : April 03, 2010 :: 17:04:40 Drug-Crazed Brother Makes Man’s Life A Misery Near Pattaya
Published : October 01, 2010 :: 12:10:33 Elderly Woman Caught-up in Banglamung Police Crackdown
Published : January 08, 2010 :: 14:01:10 [ 2,310 views ]
Drug crazed man stabs brother to death
Published : October 20, 2010 :: 13:10:37 [ 12,508 views ]
Russian Real Estate Investor Brutally Murdered in Pattaya
Published : June 01, 2011 :: 15:06:29 [ 3,090 views ]
Man Stabbed To Death Possibly By Wife’s Lover, Police say
Published : March 26, 2010 :: 14:03:57 [ 1,441 views ]
No Breakthrough In Pattaya Dismembered Baby Case
Published : June 25, 2010 :: 12:06:27 [ 6,336 views ]
Jealous Man Commits Murder-Suicide Near Pattaya
Published : April 15, 2011 :: 14:04:28 [ 4,929 views ]
Raging Wife Hires Hitmen to Shoot Her Husband
Published : April 07, 2011 :: 09:04:26 [ 2,808 views ]
Injured Teenagers Survive The Shooting
Published : January 06, 2010 :: 13:01:09 [ 2,183 views ]
Pattaya Taxi Driver Threatens the Public with Revolver
Published : September 09, 2010 :: 12:09:53 [ 4,435 views ]
Brutal Meat Cleaver Attackers Caught After 8 Month Search
Published : June 18, 2010 :: 15:06:24 [ 12,830 views ]
Brit Robbed by Thieving Gang of Katoey’s in Pattaya
Published : February 09, 2010 :: 13:02:02 [ 14,686 views ]
British National Drugged and Robbed by Pattaya Prostitute
Published : July 27, 2010 :: 13:07:57 [ 6,663 views ]
Spiked Drinks Result in Robbery of Jordanians at Pattaya Hotel
Girl, 5, and politician killed as gunmen open fire at temple
19/07/2011
Published : March 26, 2010 :: 15:03:18 [ 13,073 views ]
Pattaya Sex Worker Drugs & Rips Clients Blind
Published : July 09, 2010 :: 17:07:45 [ 8,150 views ]
Indians Fall Victim to Pattaya Bargirl Drugging Theft
Gunmen attack temple crowd, kill 2
18/07/2011
Islamic school teacher killed
10/07/2011
City cabbie nabbed for robbing, attempting to rape passenger
02/07/2011 :
Suspects arrested for killing three tigers
30/06/2011
Another BJT canvasser murdered Bhumjaithai Party
27/06/2011 :
Wildlife smuggling trails go ever deeper
27/06/2011 :
Suban murder suspect arrested
26/06/2011 : Police have rounded up one of the suspects allegedly involved in the murder of key Bhumjaithai Party canvasser Suban Jirapunvanit on June 16.
Bombs, gunmen kill and maim in South
24/06/2011 : Two men working on an irrigation project were killed and five others injured in a bomb explosion at their dormitory in Narathiwat on Friday.
e rise of the order of assassins
20/06/2011 : A dissertation on "hitman agencies" has pointed out to the need to set up a special police unit to deal directly and more effectively with the growing number of professional killers.
PAO chief killed in daring attack
16/06/2011 : The president of the Lop Buri provincial administration organisation was killed and two others, his wife and secretary, wounded in a broad daylight attack by a gunman in Phra Nakhon district on Thursday afternoon.
Slain girl's parents live in fear
04/06/2011 : CHIANG RAI : Parents of a slain hilltribe girl have sought protection from police after the man charged with her murder _ the mayor of their tambon _ was freed on bail and a key witness in the case died mysteriously.
DSI urged to prioritise human trafficking
02/06/2011 : The Department of Special Investigations should make human trafficking cases a priority, says Eaklak Loomchomkha, chief of the anti-human trafficking non-governmental organisation Mirror Foundation.
Man gets life for bus stop murder
31/05/2011 : The Criminal Court on Tuesday sentenced a man to life in prison for murder, robbery and attempted rape of a woman hotel receptionist in 2009.
Democrat canvasser's house attacked
26/05/2011 : The house of a political canvasser for the Democrat Party in Bung Kum district was attacked by an unknown number of gunmen early on Thursday morning, police said.
Loan sharks defy crackdown
23/05/2011 : Loan sharks preying on low-income parents who borrowed from them to pay back-to-school expenses for their children are posing a headache for police.
Killers boasted of rape (Brit tourist gangraped and murdered in Thailand)
Sydney Morning Herald Jan. 11, 2005
Friday, June 24, 2011
sad state
Sad to see so many children kicked around by their parents all over the country and the world, life is hard enough let alone being shifted around the country from relative to relative.....so many sad sad cases out there
Sunday, June 19, 2011
Religion should neva be an organisation
He and his co-plaintiffs argued that the Church Commissioners placed too much emphasis on purely financial considerations and insufficient emphasis upon the promotion of the Christian faith.
Thursday, May 05, 2011
DUE TO the darkness without any light,
the deathless upper land is out of sight.
In time, you can’t struggle on in any way,
drifting in the whirlpool in this bay all day
NOW, it’s the most favourable chance,
five rare attainments to enhance,
oh! You’re a man of international fame,
and you’ve plenty of affairs all the same.
They seem important and real,
but they are not worthy nor essential.
Your viewpoint is neither clear nor right,
in charcoal-room at dark cloudy midnight.
You perform good actions occasionally,
according to your whims, traditionally.
Time is steadily passing without stopping,
as to death, the leveller, you’re approaching.
As a gift or fee for the executioner,
with various foods, to present or to offer,
resting in the aggregates of wealthy chamber,
you are waiting to die with satisfaction
enjoying the worldly assumed perfection.
THOUGH they’re causes of grief and despair,
you fancy them to be a pleasant affair,
with unseen starting point of life,
in the process of existences that strike,
always you’re in perpetual hunger,
without quenching the thirst of desire.
You’re seeking taste in objects as in reality,
but they’re just a pile of ash in fragility.
Hoisting the banner of self-centred ‘I,’
you live like a villager’s swine in sty.
That pig will become fatter and fatter
for food, its danger is nearer and nearer.
You’re haughty and proud in society,
lofty with status and without anxiety,
you’re happy and pragmatic
just like that villager’s pig.
Screened by custom, pride, society, and glory,
far from seeing any truth or reality,
you have to face the total loss at last,
to mingle with common ash and earth.
THE EMPIRE of ‘I’ is very large,
in three eras from sky to earth.
Fire of death is blazing down ever and anon,
that won’t leave even a tiny atom,
shaking the whole universe
death, the murderer, is at large.
The existences or lives are only fuel.
Appearance and disappearance are perpetual,
death is the only monarch,
in cycles of world after world.
You can’t have the knowledge of reality,
on conditional materiality and mentality;
when will you be able to extinguish the fire
that’s very dangerous, ferocious and dire?
the deathless upper land is out of sight.
In time, you can’t struggle on in any way,
drifting in the whirlpool in this bay all day
NOW, it’s the most favourable chance,
five rare attainments to enhance,
oh! You’re a man of international fame,
and you’ve plenty of affairs all the same.
They seem important and real,
but they are not worthy nor essential.
Your viewpoint is neither clear nor right,
in charcoal-room at dark cloudy midnight.
You perform good actions occasionally,
according to your whims, traditionally.
Time is steadily passing without stopping,
as to death, the leveller, you’re approaching.
As a gift or fee for the executioner,
with various foods, to present or to offer,
resting in the aggregates of wealthy chamber,
you are waiting to die with satisfaction
enjoying the worldly assumed perfection.
THOUGH they’re causes of grief and despair,
you fancy them to be a pleasant affair,
with unseen starting point of life,
in the process of existences that strike,
always you’re in perpetual hunger,
without quenching the thirst of desire.
You’re seeking taste in objects as in reality,
but they’re just a pile of ash in fragility.
Hoisting the banner of self-centred ‘I,’
you live like a villager’s swine in sty.
That pig will become fatter and fatter
for food, its danger is nearer and nearer.
You’re haughty and proud in society,
lofty with status and without anxiety,
you’re happy and pragmatic
just like that villager’s pig.
Screened by custom, pride, society, and glory,
far from seeing any truth or reality,
you have to face the total loss at last,
to mingle with common ash and earth.
THE EMPIRE of ‘I’ is very large,
in three eras from sky to earth.
Fire of death is blazing down ever and anon,
that won’t leave even a tiny atom,
shaking the whole universe
death, the murderer, is at large.
The existences or lives are only fuel.
Appearance and disappearance are perpetual,
death is the only monarch,
in cycles of world after world.
You can’t have the knowledge of reality,
on conditional materiality and mentality;
when will you be able to extinguish the fire
that’s very dangerous, ferocious and dire?
Monday, April 04, 2011
ALL THAT YOU KNOW AND LOVE
WILL TURN TO DUST,
UNCOVER THE CLOUDS AND KNOW YOUR NATURE,
FREE YOUSELF FROM THE BARS OF YOUR OWN TORMENT,
THERE IS NO SOUL THAT CAN RELEASE YOURS,
BECOME WHAT IS THE TRUTH,
WHAT EVER BECOMES DUST WASNT WHAT YOU LOVED,
BUT THE ESSENCES OF WHO WE ALL ARE
UNCOVER THE CLOUDS AND KNOW YOUR NATURE,
FREE YOUSELF FROM THE BARS OF YOUR OWN TORMENT,
THERE IS NO SOUL THAT CAN RELEASE YOURS,
BECOME WHAT IS THE TRUTH,
WHAT EVER BECOMES DUST WASNT WHAT YOU LOVED,
BUT THE ESSENCES OF WHO WE ALL ARE
Thursday, March 03, 2011
tibetan book of the dead the great liberation
The Tibetan Book of the Dead: The Great Liberation (1994)
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0227651/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gFy8YxU6Qo8&feature=related
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0227651/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gFy8YxU6Qo8&feature=related
Wednesday, February 02, 2011
Saturday, January 01, 2011
another year
off to a bad start $$$ wise but other than tat everything is goin ok, i constantly need to reasses where i am at, n where i am goin
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